Plugin that adds „analog flavor“ even in default setting?

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Ah_Dziz wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:37 pm I'd suggest a wave shaper with some simple curves and careful gain staging. Use oversampling.
I know I can use saturation. However as I say in my initial question, I don't want something that I have to set every time. It`s about NOT going into every channel and carefully applying subtle saturation. This is what I would normally do.
It`s a completely different workflow. If you send a signal through a non clinical sounding device with a transformer in it it will add irregularities , harmonics , noise etc to the sound even if you do nothing with the settings. I am searching for something that imitates that.
What you describe is subtle clipping in the digital domain.

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Ah_Dziz wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 7:36 pm Isn't there a live spice cat out there now. You could make a simple summing buss in spice with little effort.
I hear ya. Hmm. I don't like the online idea. I want all my tools "100% online independent" so no Splice, no "ilok cloud" , no subscriptions.
It has to be on my workstation.
I could make a summing bus in Ableton too. What I am looking for is a "barely audible-noticeable colorbox"

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The Lindell Audio 80 and 50 series channel strips are probably the best for this. Set each plugin instance to a different TMT channel for tolerance variations between channels. You can just hit the Randomize All button and it sets all of them for you in one go. You can leave everything else at its default unity setting, and it just works.

Other plugins that will also give you analog preamp mojo just by dropping it in are the bx_consoles, IK Multimedia TR5 EQ-73, EQ-81, EQ-PA, EQ-PB, EQ-PG, and any of the NoiseAsh console or preamp plugins. Click the MIC or PREAMP button on the IK models to get a more dramatic effect.

Plugins NOT to use are the IK TR5 British Channel, TR5 White Channel, or Waves SSL plugins. All of these will null at their default settings, meaning there is no mojo added whatsoever.

And speaking of NoiseAsh, another trick inherited from the hardware days is to use a Pultec EQ. Just running audio through it makes it sound better. The NoiseAsh Rule Tec plugins are awesome for this. You can also get some nice tube warmth from a good LA-2A model. The IK Multimedia White 2A will do it. And IK TR5 Tape Machines do the authentic tape thing with no adjustment needed, of course.

Also, the UAD models of all of the above gear will add their mojo just by being there.
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.....do it. And IK TR5 Tape Machines do the authentic tape thing with no adjustment needed, of course.

Also, the UAD models of all of the above gear will add their mojo just by being there.
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My friend thanks for taking the time. This is the first answer where I feel someone got my question or at least , bothered to try to answer it.

Thank you. Will check them out.

Cheers!

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I meant "spice" as in the real-time circuit modelling program. Since analog summing is a very simple circuit the Spice is a legit angle to approach this from. I meant using a very subtle (and possibly modulated) wave shaper on the bus that you want to combine your signals onto. This is (especially with some very low level noise added to the situation) capable of doing far more than "clipping" and can act at the point of adding your signals together much like distortion in a mixer. There are lots of resources out there for various transfer functions of famous gear, but you can come up with your own special flavor of "mojo" just as well as long as you keep it subtle. In an analog summing scenario you would generally have a bit of inductance, capacitance, and resistance as well as supply voltage limits that can shape the sound and will generally behave as a single pole filter and a simple limit on the level you can push. If you know how these interact with each other, you can fiddle around quite a bit with very simple tools to mimic their interactions. You can also use a Spice based emulation of a circuit. Or you can use something that someone else has already dialed in. I'm a fan of the sknote stuff as it all works together and does a nice subtle effect on all tracks by just inserting it. Round tone and Buss are the two plugins I'm thinking of.... I think.
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...... use something that someone else has already dialed in. I'm a fan of the sknote stuff as it all works together and does a nice subtle effect on all tracks by just inserting it. Round tone and Buss are the two plugins I'm thinking of.... I think.
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Ah! Now I get you. Sorry but I am really tired and read "Splice" and thought its like the Splice Sounds thingy only for software and thought "mmmh ... no" :-) lmao with myself

Hmm. This sounds interesting although it also sounds like a lot of work for someone like me who is. not that fit in programing.

sknote I think I had some on my old computer. I am recently having thoughts as to which plugins I want to keep cause I want companies where I know they will (probably) still exist in a few years.
I took a look and I had purchased Master Limiter by them but the last update is old. It does not look like they are fast with keeping up.
Also I found an email correspondence with them where I could not get the plugin to work and they seized communication out of the blue and while we where communicating normally and politely.
Dunno...

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Isn't the whole idea behind brainworx console strips that you can add the channel noise of consoles even if you don't change any settings besides the channels for each strip? That's how I've always interpreted that. Then you just push the input to get saturation off the preamp. Im a noob and could be wrong though.

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Sutnikoev wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:14 pm
martinjuenke wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 6:03 pm This is imo the best:
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Its a bit late for April 1 jokes tbh
This one does not want to believe :x
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Gavincoolguy wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:38 pm Isn't the whole idea behind brainworx console strips that you can add the channel noise of consoles even if you don't change any settings besides the channels for each strip? That's how I've always interpreted that. Then you just push the input to get saturation off the preamp. Im a noob and could be wrong though.
Yes, they do that. It's not just noise. It's also preamp/transformer THD. You can hear subtle changes just by randomizing the TMT channel strips at default/unity settings.

You can also turn up in IN GAIN which emulates turning up or down the preamp gain by as much as 10dB. Unfortunately that's not really enough gain increase to cover the full usable range you might actually need from a mic input.

The Lindell Audio 80 covers a range from -10dB to +80dB, and the 50 goes from -6 dB to +24dB (though a real API preamp goes up to +65dB.) Lindell Audio also uses the Brainworx TMT algorithm.
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Sutnikoev wrote: Wed Apr 05, 2023 2:05 pm
Tbh i don't want and don't expect to 100% replicate analog processing and summing. That's not possible yet. However in the last years some plugins have been created that are on a different level than 5-6 years ago.

What I look for is something extremely subtle that adds a tiny bit of color and non linearities on each channel but not enough to create a a problem when channels get summed up. Right now I can get there but it is always a hustle and never "set and forget". Too many tweaks necessary
it is possible to an extent, just have to do some clever routing to split into L + R, process them slightly different then sum back to stereo.
One such plugin you could use for each channel is Waves NLS Channel. Its very subtle, and if you use slightly different settings for each channel then youre half way there.

https://www.waves.com/plugins/nls-non-linear-summer

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sible to an extent, just have to do some clever routing to split into L + R, process them slightly different then sum back to stereo.
One such plugin you could use for each channel is Waves NLS Channel. Its very subtle, and if you use slightly different settings for each channel then youre half way there.

https://www.waves.com/plugins/nls-non-linear-summer
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Was never a big fan of Waves and their last "move" did not help much gaining my trust.
I will not further invest in their Brand tbh

"just have to do some clever routing to split into L + R, process them slightly different then sum back to stereo. "
This is exactly what I want to avoid. I already do things like this for years now. I am looking for ways of NOT doing it this way

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Sutnikoev wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 11:44 am
Was never a big fan of Waves and their last "move" did not help much gaining my trust.
I will not further invest in their Brand tbh

"just have to do some clever routing to split into L + R, process them slightly different then sum back to stereo. "
This is exactly what I want to avoid. I already do things like this for years now. I am looking for ways of NOT doing it this way
im not a waves fan either. i dont even have waves plugins, except rbass. but NLS channel does what you want i think and for 29 eur its probably pretty good. But i confused if you dont want to process L+R differently and u dont like the plugins suggested then i dont know what to tell u rly

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