Is A.I. good or bad for audio production?

[Underoath77]

Curious on the groups thoughts. Not just Melda, but plugins as an ecosystem

[Tagirijus]

Is a knife good or bad for ... ? (; Well you either can stab people to death ... or you can cut your veggies with it and have a healthy life. Saying: it's a tool.

Regarding plugin developers: if used wisely I can imagine it to be a big gain, if plugins might have more and more A.I. "capabilities". Companies should not use this buzzword for commercial purposes, though.

Regarding producers: to me A.I. might have the power to just eliminate all the boring tasks, most people might not want to do anyway. I even wrote a german blog post about A.I. and if I fear it regarding my job as a composer: here. TL;DR: nope, I do not fear it. Of course, things might change and we all might have to get used to certain things, maybe. But on the long run I guess that such automations and technical helps will allow us to focus on way more useful and interesting things.

[rtoip]

... if used wisely I can imagine it to be a big gain, ...
... A.I. might have the power to just eliminate all the boring tasks ...

I think the same as you, especially when it comes to automating certain tedious tasks. Currently, I automate some things using autohotkey in combination with reaper scripts, which gives satisfactory results.

... I even wrote a german blog post about A.I. ...

Thanks for the article. I'll try to translate it into Polish somehow However, it would be better if it was written in English.

[mevla]

The more machine are making, the less human are sharing. A.I. is already used for writing church sermons, see the articles about it from pastors and other church members. Why an example with church sermons ? Because that's a domain application least suspected to have A.I. in it : humans and spirituality.

Art is in between spirituality and material living. It can bridge 'worlds' so to speak, mixing emotions and physicality. It can make spirits fly as well. Can A.I. deliver music to customers ? Probably not directly although that can depend on the application. Functional music, 'muzak', very probably. Purely dancing rhythms, quite possible too.

I bet the crowds shaking for years now their fluorescent sticks at are not to the human band members behind Hatsune Miku on stage.

Humans can assure the delivery of A.I.-generated content. Regarding social services this is officially known by the European Commission as 'high-risk A,I,'. This is the term used for A.I. involved in social services. There might be a day when some decision-making will be relinquished to A.I. while human operators will assure the delivery to (social) customers.

This said there are two fields that in my opinion should be protected : the capability of openly discussing the impact of A.I. without more or less rapidly degenerating into undocumented if not silly emotional comparisons, and the assessment of the scope of such a tool. After all, this is a tool that's rapidly introduced to a presence in almost all human domains of activity.

EU : "Regulatory framework proposal on artificial intelligence"

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/e ... amework-ai

Lexology : "EU moves to ban high-risk AI"

https://www.lexology.com/library/detail ... beae4f8829

Kraftwerk concert : ...

[Dirk Diggler]

Good is the answer. The way to figure it out, use your normal manual mastering process.
Save that and then use an AI mastering program, compare and contrast.

I used to have a very reliable manual process that was very consistent for a variety of styles. Once I heard the results of AI, I have stopped worrying about mastering manually, let the robots rise! LOL

[dune_rave]

sooner or later daws will contain AI tools. we don't have to do anything...

[sirmonkey]

A.I. is not bad for your music if you don't use it.

[mevla]

It's funny that in order to support A.I. human failures are put forth.

At the individual scale as well as at the social scale as we have seen here last month, main title first page of a very popular newspaper : "A.I. will save the health system". It's more than 25 years that the health system is crooked through all governments in charge. So instead of fixing the corruption problem, A.I. will save it from the bad humans in charge.

A.I. imposition will work through lack of social scope, each one focused on its own little turf : A.I. helps me write good sermons for the church services. A.I. helps me to express myself visually even if I do not know how to paint. A.I. has planned our family meals for the next month. A.I. does my mixing so I can make music. A.I. has evaluated our young Jimmy in school and it looks good for his school years. A.I. has confirmed that I'm eligible for a mortgage based on my life so far and the graph it tends to draw for the next 30 years.

A.I. this and that while evading at all costs the big picture.

[al808]

AI can be useful, and nobody is forcing nobody to use it.
My hope is that we will continue to see progress with post production tools, cleaning up instrument takes of fret noise and what not, palliating to my lack of technique, or making recordings done in noisy restaurants a workable thing.
Also where does AI start ? I've always been most impressed by EQ matching tools (MFreeFormEQ), being one of the only plugins equating to having someone with real talent walk in and do something way beyond my abilities: "so you want to make this sound like that, no probs, there you go".
When you the flick the randomize lottery on a plugin, that's AI, right?

Cheers Al

[Tagirijus]

Also where does AI start ? I've always been most impressed by EQ matching tools

Actually in my experience AI thesedays seem to be a buzzword used quite quick. To my understanding "todays common AI tools" are rather systems based on machine learning. So in my understanding such an "AI" is something which was trained on a huge dataset to be able to do some statistical output estimation with only a small input. So EQ matching wouldn't be that "AI-ish" to me, if I understood this all correct.

[al808]

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To my understanding "todays common AI tools" are rather systems based on machine learning.

Hi Tagirijus, thanks for posting, I believe you are correct and the above is a good and concise definition for the matter at hand.
I guess we'll agree that despite not qualifying for the term A.I, some of the traditional plugins do some pretty "clever" stuff.
Cheers Al.

[MeldaProduction]

Indeed, AI is "cool" these days, but it's no AI. Companies write it everywhere, where something does something on its own. I could probably put it to the description of half of Melda plugins .
What AI should mean is that it makes "decisions" and ideally "good decisions" and that's something very different to say analysing spectrum and matching it to pink noise (and more than one well known "AI" plugin does that...). And there we have the problem - what is a good decision? The more I know about music, the more I notice that most of the good stuff is actually kinda "random accidents", which got popular . ChatGPT has a lot to learn to get there