Which Filter-FX for VERY creamy Filtersweeps ?....creamyest in Town ? (other than the bundle from Moog)

[billcarroll]

A filter being in the synth vs "external" to the synth makes no difference to the cream. Nobody would use external filter plugins, modular synths, or modular filters if that ridiculousness were the case.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

I have the Drop too, ...and found it never anything comparable to a creamy Hardware filter.
Maybe the difference lies here between "sequenzing" and hand playing s?.....i only play by hand.
I would guess so, that this IS a factor here.
....and i just might never have found my way to it. ....seems so, then.
i´ll look again at it, "if" my license still works on my todays computer.

Outside of U-he, which doesn't have their best analog filters in a standalone filter plugin yet, The Drop has the most analog sounding/behaving filters on the market. You may not like the filters they chose to model, but the models themselves are excellent. As suggested elsewhere, play around with the input levels, padding the filters, drive, etc.

Also, which hardware filters sound creamy to you? Found out what kind of circuit they use, and see if there's something similar in The Drop. For instance, you may think the Moog ladder filter is creamy sounding. Others may consider the bass rolloff with resonance a problem and say it's not creamy. But, assuming it was, the PRD (or PRG) filter in The Drop are based on the ladder filter in a Moog Prodigy and may be a good starting point. Then adjust the input levels and/or drive. Or maybe you don't like the Moog filter, but something else...if you find out what the circuit is doing, you may find something comparable in The Drop.

So in my opinion at least, yes, it's probably you.

[ghettosynth]

A filter being in the synth vs "external" to the synth makes no difference to the cream. Nobody would use external filter plugins, modular synths, or modular filters if that ridiculousness were the case.

Correct. Pretty much any four pole filter is gonna give you at least some cream. I wonder if pole spacing matters? If the poles are closer together, do you get more cream?

[billcarroll]

A filter being in the synth vs "external" to the synth makes no difference to the cream. Nobody would use external filter plugins, modular synths, or modular filters if that ridiculousness were the case.

Correct. Pretty much any four pole filter is gonna give you at least some cream. I wonder if pole spacing matters? If the poles are closer together, do you get more cream?

Fewer poles, more cream. More poles just leads to aggression.

The 2Pole/4Pole switch allows you to select how aggressive your filter slope is. 2 pole is equal to 12db per octave which is smooth and sweet, while 4 pole is 24db per octave which is hard and aggressive.

So sayeth The Moog

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

The aggressiveness of the slope. It may indeed be the case that to the OP more slope equals more cream. We have no idea.

An audio clip from the OP of a "creamy" filter sweep may even be in order.

[billcarroll]

The aggressiveness of the slope. It may indeed be the case that to the OP more slope equals more cream. We have no idea.

An audio clip from the OP of a "creamy" filter sweep may even be in order.

Next you'll argue we don't know what "Phat" means.

[El°HYM]

Just wait until he finds the 2Pole/4Pole switch on his Synth Warmer and then maxes out the 'hidden' oversampling feature inside.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

The aggressiveness of the slope. It may indeed be the case that to the OP more slope equals more cream. We have no idea.

An audio clip from the OP of a "creamy" filter sweep may even be in order.

Next you'll argue we don't know what "Phat" means.

Nah, my doctor calls me that all the time!

[bilrobins]

No hardware filter experience here - but it took me a while to realise just how good Zebrify is. I find the filters to be some of the best I've used. With U-he Zebra Legacy now at only 99 Euros, it is amazing value. Worth checking out for sure.

[vurt]

creamy is easy, im looking for a more jam like textured filter (preferably strawberry, but will take raspberry if needs be) and possibly a custard filter too. thanks

[GaryG]

I LOVE the one in Audio Damage Dr. Device. Just turn off the delay section, instant cream dream.

I'd never used that till they made it free last year, yeah, gorgeous sounding plugin.

You're probably aware they just made Grind free too, the filter in that is cool too, MS20 mode etc.

[Funky40]

I think The Drop is excellent. But at first i wasnt so impressed. What i would recommend is taking notice of the input level and adjust using the pads to the left. All the filter models react different to the level going in and it makes a drastic difference to the resonance.

Maybe the cream you wanted was right in front of you all along?

coming from modulars, at least there, i was well aware of the gainstage thing.
ok, i managed now to activate my The Drop license again. ( nightmare )
It is true, i often have a harder time to find to the "real" -the good- settings, in software.
Its a own art, haha. I´ll give it a go, see:

So, i just reworked my "Patch" in GigPerformer ( Host):
i run now 4 Filters, all in parallel, switchable by the turn of one knob ( incl. bypass of the unused plugins), plus the necessary CCs -of all Filters- mapped to the same 1x HW control*:
Kazrog Synthwarmer / Arturia filter mini / Cytomic The Drop / + a 4th slot, not yet occupied.

* i run a small morph: Cutoff Freq + Reso coupled to each other.
A little trick that -often enough- would help to bring soft Filters to the next level, when it is about to do nice Filter sweeps, => based on just moving "one knob ".

The patch has been reworked, The Drop not yet adjusted, ...might happen later tonight.
So, i can now switch 4 Filters on the fly, ...and jamm my patch, allways using the very same HW control !
Thanks to GPs "draw curvature free" Feature, can i also adjust the "behave" of my Fader,
and can adjust each plugin Filter, to "feel" perfect on the hand, ...and make each feel same at the same time.

we´ll see. I keep you posted

I know exactly what "creamy" means - it's hard to describe until you yank the cutoff on a Moog hardware synth and wish plugin filters sounded that delicious. What is that sound? Creamy, ofcourse

Honestly I'm not sure I've ever found it in a plugin - maybe the closest I know would be TAL-Filter (V1), Kazrog Synth Warmer and Kilohearts Non-linear Filter, but they're not quite there.

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Yeah, ...glad you mentioned SynthWarmer.
Never tested The TAL Filter.
never used it, but i should have the Kilohearts thing. I´ll check

[ghettosynth]

creamy is easy, im looking for a more jam like textured filter (preferably strawberry, but will take raspberry if needs be) and possibly a custard filter too. thanks

I'm glad you're here vurt. You have a lot of experience with filters. Now, if you're talking custard, do you mean like Birds [corrected] custard on the hob? Because it has a very different consistency when hot than when after it's cooled off a bit.

In fact, is there really a difference between standard cream and hot custard cream?

[vurt]

birds. birdseye do fish.
no, real egg custard.

[ghettosynth]

birds. birdseye do fish.
no, real egg custard.

Right you are, I corrected the post. I've only seen one tin of it since I was a kid and got the names confused in my mind. I suppose I could of googled it, but after googling for "maximum cream from four poles" I'm a little gun shy.