Hornet VHS does not render on Linux with wine & yabridge

[kvrwlk]

Hi, as of this date, I have the latest version of Hornet VHS, AutoGain Pro Mk2, and Harmonics. Autogain and Harmonics render and work fine. VHS gui does not render, VST nor VST3. Running on AVLinux 21 with wine 7.2 Staging and yabridge 5.0.4, Ardour 7.3 and Mixbus 32C. Thanks!

[HoRNet]

Hi, VHS uses webkit on macOS and webview on Windows for the interface so unless you can add support for those components through emulation in Linux VHS is not going to work correctly.

Saverio

[kvrwlk]

That's unfortunate.

[fromcpu]

webview functionality can be installed using winetricks:

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winetricks ie8

try it too

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winetricks urlmon

here is a description of all components: https://github.com/Winetricks/winetrick ... bs/all.txt

Please let us know

[kvrwlk]

Interesting. I'll give it a try. I'm not sure which I should try to install for webview, the Evergreen Bootstrapper, or the Evergreen Standalone Installer.

[bambancico]

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Installing webview2 makes the plugins be visible yeah, it works. I downloaded the webview2 straight from microsoft https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/m ... orm=MA13LH (https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/microsoft-edge/webview2/?form=MA13LH) and it is not perfect and it takes a bit more than I´d like it to load but it works!!

[fromcpu]

Installing webview2 makes the plugins be visible yeah, it works. I downloaded the webview2 straight from microsoft https://developer.microsoft.com/en-us/m ... orm=MA13LH and it is not perfect and it takes a bit more than I´d like it to load but it works!!

Great news! Thanks for sharing this solution!

[fromcpu]

to whom it may concern:
I was able to run HORNET plug-ins that on Windows use webview to GUI:

my spec:
OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) x86_64
Kernel: 6.10.11-1-liquorix-amd64
DE: Plasma 5.27.5
WM: KWin

yabridge 5.1.0
wine-staging 9.18

winetricks:
corefonts
gdiplus
vcrun6sp6
iertutil
wininet

installed in wineprefix:
Microsoft Edge WebView Runtime 129.0.2792.65


notes:
1. created a new wineprefix for Hornet plugins
2. the mentioned winetricks were installed
3. the indicated webview was installed in the prefix
4. yabridgectl sync was started
5. reaper and Ardour found the plugins
6. the plugins started displaying the GUI

[HoRNet]

to whom it may concern:
I was able to run HORNET plug-ins that on Windows use webview to GUI:

my spec:
OS: Debian GNU/Linux 12 (bookworm) x86_64
Kernel: 6.10.11-1-liquorix-amd64
DE: Plasma 5.27.5
WM: KWin

yabridge 5.1.0
wine-staging 9.18

winetricks:
corefonts
gdiplus
vcrun6sp6
iertutil
wininet

installed in wineprefix:
Microsoft Edge WebView Runtime 129.0.2792.65


notes:
1. created a new wineprefix for Hornet plugins
2. the mentioned winetricks were installed
3. the indicated webview was installed in the prefix
4. yabridgectl sync was started
5. reaper and Ardour found the plugins
6. the plugins started displaying the GUI

Just out of curiosity how the emulation runs? is it good enough?

Saverio

[y6nH]

I'm running into the same problems on my new Linux system. It seems there's an incompatibility between Wine 9 and the latest Edge WebView (version 133), so I can't get it installed.

I'm also using Yabridge, and most Windows VST plugins work flawlessly with it. There's no noticeable processor overhead. There are other exceptions, like plugins by iZotope, which just won't run.

The Hornet plugins I've tested:
VHS, MagnusLite and MixComp have no GUI (black rectangle), though they do process sound as usual.
Molla appears with the GUI blown up to double size, but cut off at the usual borders, so that you can only see the top left quarter of it. Processes sound as usual.
Valvola has the same GUI problem as Molla, but also freezes and makes the DAW unresponsive. StereoView also does this in Tracktion, but works OK in Reaper.
Harmonics, Chorus80, MulticompPlus, Spaces, SW34EQ, TotalEQ and WahWah all work normally.

[Nielzie]

Unfortunately I also have GUI loading problems with some newer Hornet Plugins with Wine (through "Bottles"). The GUI window is all black, sound works though, so only a GUI rendering problem. This happens for instance with TotalEQ, Magnus MK3, Tape MK2 and the 80's reverb plug-in.

Shame, because others work fine. Even some newish ones like Butterfly and AnalogStage MK2.

[mabian]

Unfortunately I also have GUI loading problems with some newer Hornet Plugins with Wine (through "Bottles"). The GUI window is all black, sound works though, so only a GUI rendering problem. This happens for instance with TotalEQ, Magnus MK3, Tape MK2 and the 80's reverb plug-in.

Shame, because others work fine. Even some newish ones like Butterfly and AnalogStage MK2.

I'm curious... can you use the Linux native REAPER Linux with Windows plugins "Bottled" in Wine?
Or are you using the Windows REAPER in a Bottle together with the Windows plugins?

Thanks,
Mario

[Nielzie]

Unfortunately I also have GUI loading problems with some newer Hornet Plugins with Wine (through "Bottles"). The GUI window is all black, sound works though, so only a GUI rendering problem. This happens for instance with TotalEQ, Magnus MK3, Tape MK2 and the 80's reverb plug-in.

Shame, because others work fine. Even some newish ones like Butterfly and AnalogStage MK2.

I'm curious... can you use the Linux native REAPER Linux with Windows plugins "Bottled" in Wine?
Or are you using the Windows REAPER in a Bottle together with the Windows plugins?

Thanks,
Mario

Hi Mario,

I am using both Daw (at the moment MuLab and EnergyXT but also windows Reaper in the past) and/with plugins under Wine in one prefix / "container" (bottle) with overall great success. Only very few plugins do have some problems, like some Hornet Plugins and for instance some plugins made with Synthmaker/Flowstone and it is usually a GUI problem. And some plugins have slower GUI animations, like some older Tone2 plugins.

[mabian]

Hello Nielzie,

are you running Linux native REAPER (using Windows plugins through Wine + Yabridge/LinVST) or is it all Windows versions (including REAPER) inside a Bottle? I'm interested overall in the first option, but if you say that the second is viable - or maybe even better - I could totally try it.

Are you able to run Native Access 2.0 and XLN plugins in your environment?

Thanks for replying!

- Mario

[Nielzie]

It's all Windows versions, both DAW and Plugins within the same environment.

I don't think that running Linux Reaper and Plugins under a Wine bridge, would be very different than running both under Wine, because in both cases the plugins (and plugin GUI) would run under Wine