Is Omnisphere 2 still worth it?

[keyman_sam]

If there’s one plug in on the market that’s not over hyped it’s omnisphere. Worth every penny.

[BBFG#]

If there’s one plug in on the market that’s not over hyped it’s omnisphere. Worth every penny.

It's a church of it's own religion. I can't think of anything more hyped and as insipidly as it. (It's not a bad synth, but the majority of its users are text book cult fodder.)

[noiseboyuk]

It's a church of it's own religion. I can't think of anything more hyped and as insipidly as it. (It's not a bad synth, but the majority of its users are text book cult fodder.)

Or, ya know, people just use it and like it a lot.

[BBFG#]

no

It's a church of it's own religion. I can't think of anything more hyped and as insipidly as it. (It's not a bad synth, but the majority of its users are text book cult fodder.)

Or, ya know, people just use it and like it a lot.

Yeah, it could happen.
But that is the minority...

[ghettosynth]

First of all, I have both also, and I highly disagree. The filters are far better in Avenger than in Omnisphere. But this preference is 100% subjective of course.

I don't use Avenger, (although after watching a couple of vids, I might start using Avenger) so I don't know, but, I will say that there is reasonably objective evidence that the filters in Omnishphere are not cutting edge. There is a long winded conversation where Eric chimed in somewhere on here where he says as much. They licensed the "juicy" filters, that is not their technical strength, or at least wasn't. They licensed those filters quite some time before the ZDF craze. I'm sure that they update things, but I'm not sure that they have re-engineered the filters that they licensed.

[bmanic]

Yeah the filters are perfectly ok but they are definitely no where near the current crop of new synthesizers and proper analogue modelling (where it actually matters how hard you drive the filters). They are somewhat vanilla digital filters but I do like how some of them have chirpy yet non-harsh resonance. They just lack a bit of oomph and character. For basic synthesis duties they are definitely more than good enough. They are way better than any legacy filters in hardware workstations from Korg, Roland and Yamaha, in my opinion.. but they are definitely not as characterful as some other software synths. On the positive side, all the processing in Omnisphere is extremely CPU light so you'll never run out of instances on a modern CPU.

[bmanic]

If there’s one plug in on the market that’s not over hyped it’s omnisphere. Worth every penny.

It's a church of it's own religion. I can't think of anything more hyped and as insipidly as it. (It's not a bad synth, but the majority of its users are text book cult fodder.)

Probably the defensive nature of Omnisphere users happens because most people who are highly critical of it have never actually played or owned it. There's no demo and it's very difficult to find local music shops that still run a dedicated computer setup with Omnisphere installed.

.. thus most of the negative comments come from zero actual hands on user experience of the thing and are usually based on watching youtube videos. There are NO youtube videos that go through the synth in depth and actually show the raw included sound libraries (NOT the presets, the sample sets themselves) so it's difficult for people to understand just how amazing the library of samples is.

This is the very reason I posted a few pages back a 30 min long audio demo for you all to listen to. That was me picking RANDOM sample sets in Omnisphere with zero synthesis going on. Heck even the ADSR was left at default with an abrupt release. Just listen to how amazingly vast range of sounds you can get with zero effort, and that's before tweaking any actual synthesis settings. I made that 30min demo in about 45 minutes, where 10min went into simply dragging and dropping the individual real-time recorded audio snippets together. And I covered maybe 0.01% of the available library in that demo.

This is what active users of Omnisphere understand. They know just how vast the library is and how much sonic territory the synth covers. This is something you simply can not understand without owning the synth and having explored it thoroughly, which takes months.. or even years. Hence the cultish/defensive behavior, or at least that's my guess.

[BBFG#]

That "donation" made me chuckle.

[Big Mouth Strikes Again]

troll alert!!! Another new user since march 2023, can we figure out who it is again?

Since when does educating some fool make me a troll? And if "this preference is 100% subjective" then why are you getting so butt hurt? By your own admission my "opinion" is just as valid as yours. Why make such a big deal of it then?

I'm pretty sure when it comes to synthesizers in general I have vastly more experience in programming them than you. I know both Avenger and Omnisphere inside and out (.. and 30+ others.. with 35+ years of programming even the most complex of beasts). Yeah, I'm going to draw _that_ card. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to the technicalities.

LOL. I own 25 hardware synthesizers and probably 100 synth/sampler plugins. I have so many that I have honestly lost track of how many I own. I was a professional sound designer for 10 years programming a wide range of hardware and software synths and developing all manner of sample libraries. Yeah, I'm going to draw THAT card.

Funny how you also seem to think that I dislike Omnisphere somehow. You clearly haven't read my previous posts.

I don't care whether you like or dislike Omnisphere. You just don't know anything about it. Until such time as you do, you should probably keep quiet.

I on the other hand, know several of the people who actually coded Omnisphere's filters. (It wasn't just one guy.) These are some of the top engineers in the MI industry. Like I said, you don't know jack.

Before you throw around terms like “ZDF filters” you should actually know what they mean and how they work.

[bmanic]

troll alert!!! Another new user since march 2023, can we figure out who it is again?

Since when does educating some fool make me a troll? And if "this preference is 100% subjective" then why are you getting so butt hurt? By your own admission my "opinion" is just as valid as yours. Why make such a big deal of it then?

I'm pretty sure when it comes to synthesizers in general I have vastly more experience in programming them than you. I know both Avenger and Omnisphere inside and out (.. and 30+ others.. with 35+ years of programming even the most complex of beasts). Yeah, I'm going to draw _that_ card. I know what I'm talking about when it comes to the technicalities.

LOL. I own 25 hardware synthesizers and probably 100 synth/sampler plugins. I have so many that I have honestly lost track of how many I own. I was a professional sound designer for 10 years programming a wide range of hardware and software synths and developing all manner of sample libraries. Yeah, I'm going to draw THAT card.

Funny how you also seem to think that I dislike Omnisphere somehow. You clearly haven't read my previous posts.

I don't care whether you like or dislike Omnisphere. You just don't know anything about it. I, on the other hand, know several of the people who actually coded Omnisphere's filters. (It wasn't just one guy.) These are some of the top engineers in the MI industry. Like I said, you don't know jack.

Funny how you go on about me being right about the subjective matter of filters and then start spewing all kinds of crap about me not knowing anything about Omnisphere. The most obvious indication of you simply trolling (other than your super obnoxious writing) is that you clearly didn't read any of my other posts here about Omnisphere. You simply got all hung up on the filters.

I don't care whether you like or dislike Omnisphere. You just don't know anything about it. I, on the other hand, know several of the people who actually coded Omnisphere's filters. (It wasn't just one guy.) These are some of the top engineers in the MI industry. Like I said, you don't know jack.

.. as for the filters. They are "fine" by 2010 standards (though they can't even be properly keyboard tracked for abusing high resonance oscillation, which is pretty bad even for 2010 standards). Things have changed since then but since you are such an expert, I'm sure you knew about ZDF filter development and other recent techniques, right?

.. oh and lets see some pictures of your 25 hardware synthesizers and 100 synth/sampler plugins. Oh and lets see some of your sound libraries. Mine you can find in all manner of official plugins released over the years (over 200 in Alchemy 2 alone).

Yeah, not buying it. Rather you sound like a troll, act like a troll and probably a kid who only has his keyboard to back up all claims. Prove me wrong.

[LoveEnigma18]

Please stick to the topic guys. It is going beyond proportion now.

[syntonica]

Please stick to the topic guys. It is going beyond proportion now.

Want the topic "genitalia measuring"?

Is Omni overpriced? No.
Is it worth getting? Depends on what you want. The biggest flaw is lack of demo and crappy resale policy. If I could have demoed it, I would not have purchased it. I don't even have it currently installed.

[DrGonzo]

If I am not mistaken, Omnisphere is the only software synthesizer on the market.

It would be great if there would be more soft synths out there, but unfortunately this is not the case. Get Omnisphere or a banjo. That's pretty much the choices you have.

[Big Mouth Strikes Again]

It would be great if there would be more soft synths out there, but unfortunately this is not the case. Get Omnisphere or a banjo. That's pretty much the choices you have.

What if I want both Omnisphere and a banjo? Maybe Spectrasonics will release a “World” expansion pack that includes a killer sampled banjo?

[noiseboyuk]

The circle is now complete.