NAMM: U-he Filterscape Bundle previewed

[jens]

Free update, same price.

That's great (and also very generous to existing owners) - very tempting indeed!

By the way, something actually quite obvious:

contrary to the claim of the recent uncalled for rant, both effect-plugins could prove to be a true godsend when it comes to arranging, as the snapshots make tedious EQ-automation (plus more section dependent FX tweaking) redundant.

[Caine123]

hope there will be a new intro price or something, this is the only plugin missing from u-he

[jamcat]

Pwoor innocent songwriters, the evil complex filter plugins are keeping them from writing songs

The issue is they’re not songwriters. The knob twiddlers aren’t the victims here. The music is.

how so?
does someone else, making different music, stop you from doing what you want to do?

If what I want to do is listen to new songs that are well written and have depth, it does.

I don't think people are listening, honestly. Bandcamp and Soundcloud counters don't lie. 20 minutes of filters and delays droning on is a lot more fun for the person making it than the person listening to it.

The fact that no one has written a song as good as a Cole Porter tune since the 1950s has very little to do with how people make sounds. The most you could say is that composition now involves instrumentation to such a degree that composers are too distracted to write great songs, but Filterscape knob-twiddlers are no different in that respect from Stratocaster noodlers.

Does anyone seriously think that Jimi Hendrix's virtuosity prevented anyone from writing something as good as "Let's Do It" or "You're The Top"? If modern synthesis and sound design is holding back songwriting, then can't we say the same thing about guitars and bands?

This is kind of what I'm getting at. A lot of people use technology as a substitute for creativity. It's easy to run a synth preset through an arpeggiator, and throw an LFO controlled filter on it, but did you really create anything, or did you just passively let it happen while you watched? At least a Stratocaster noodler has to put their fingers to the fretboard.

I don't fault a developer for giving the market what it wants, but I do think there is too much focus on the tools (and the toys) from an industry that just wants to sell you stuff you don't need, and people end up with the wrong priorities, thinking yet another plugin to play with and "mangle sound" is all they're really missing.

The same is true of a certain thinking among guitarists who put all their focus on acquiring boutique pedals and amps (like Jimi Hendrix used!) because that's a lot easier than being able to play and write songs as well as Hendrix.

I fall into this trap myself, which is why I notice it.

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

Yeah, but maybe lets not derail the FIlterscape thread discussing this? Sounds like a perfectly fine topic for the "everything else" forum. Filterscape did nothing to deserve this.

[Shabdahbriah]

^^^ that ^^^

[jens]

I fall into this trap myself, which is why I notice it.

So I suggest you work this out for yourself then and let other people do their own thing.
I still don't get why you think what others do was your business in any way whatsoever.
It is not - unless they ask you for advice, which certainly nobody in this thread did.

Your off topic rant was simply entirely uncalled for and way out of line. There is no other sane way of seeing this. It's by far not the first time you did this either.

Plus - as I mentioned on the top of this page - you even fail to see how Filterscape can be
super-helpful as a mixing tool for any kind of music. So even if somebody had asked you for advice here you would obviously lack the musical and technical competence to be of any help.

[PieBerger]

This embodies everything wrong with music today. It’s all knob twiddling and no songwriting. Modulated filters have been played out for 20 years now.

And you are moaning on a forum instead focusing on songwriting because? Edit: you are the embodiment of everything wrong with the internet for last 20 years, constant negging and delusions of grandeur. What have you accomplishedrecently, any complex and interesting software like Filterscape, written any critically acclaimed songs? All you seem to do is moan, moan, moan, get over yourself and go and be someone instead of talking anything and everything down ad infinitum.

[RobGee]

So does this include U-he Moog, Korg and Roland filter models in an effect plugin? From watching the video I only see State Variable Filters mentioned in the effect plugin whilst the others are mentioned in the synth plugin. Looks massively over complicated and over engineered to me, I wonder if most people will even use half the features of this?

[gaggle of hermits]

This is kind of what I'm getting at. A lot of people use technology as a substitute for creativity.

do you think a composer asking for sul ponticello or sul tasto from a string player – or the string player improvising it themselves - is a substitute for creativity?

because that's basically what you're arguing by inserting your views on *checks notes* a post about a morphing filter plugin.

[PieBerger]

So does this include U-he Moog, Korg and Roland filter models in an effect plugin? From watching the video I only see State Variable Filters mentioned in the effect plugin whilst the others are mentioned in the synth plugin. Looks massively over complicated and over engineered to me, I wonder if most people will even use half the features of this?

I'd be interested to know about the different flavours too. State Variable is a bit ambiguous as it could refer to SEM topology and or multimode operation, with different characters available.

[gaggle of hermits]

So does this include U-he Moog, Korg and Roland filter models in an effect plugin? From watching the video I only see State Variable Filters mentioned in the effect plugin whilst the others are mentioned in the synth plugin. Looks massively over complicated and over engineered to me, I wonder if most people will even use half the features of this?

i believe you have the option of not buying it.

[RobGee]

So does this include U-he Moog, Korg and Roland filter models in an effect plugin? From watching the video I only see State Variable Filters mentioned in the effect plugin whilst the others are mentioned in the synth plugin. Looks massively over complicated and over engineered to me, I wonder if most people will even use half the features of this?

i believe you have the option of not buying it.

Yep

[jamcat]

This is kind of what I'm getting at. A lot of people use technology as a substitute for creativity.

do you think a composer asking for sul ponticello or sul tasto from a string player – or the string player improvising it themselves - is a substitute for creativity?

because that's basically what you're arguing by inserting your views on *checks notes* a post about a morphing filter plugin.

Thanks, I enjoyed that.
This is at least a clever and entertaining rebuttal.

[revvy]

you are the embodiment of everything wrong with the internet for last 20 years

Agreed

[LFO8]

I hope u-he will offer a stripped down version of this also. A great sounding u-he filter plugin without too much fif-faf for when we want simple things.