That video is hilarious. The guy in the video, DJ Carnage says that the laptop he's using in the vid was provided by Razer because his was not set up properly (his fault he says). (?)martiu wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:33 pmthat clown was one of them, Razor removed him from the partnership after thatUncle E wrote: Mon Apr 17, 2023 6:01 pm Remember when all those famous producers got caught using cracked versions of Sylenth1? If only for that reason, I would actually believe that it or Massive are probably the most widely used synths ever used.
Diva Alternatives
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- KVRAF
- 2850 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit SW US
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- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
I don't know if hilarious or utterly depressing... Something in between...
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- KVRAF
- 2850 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit SW US
i was seeing it as a joke about the loudness wars. am i already that overmedicated?Jac459 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 4:59 amI don't know if hilarious or utterly depressing... Something in between...
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- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
If it is the case it is hilarious....CrystalWizard wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 5:11 am i was seeing it as a joke about the loudness wars. am i already that overmedicated?
But I feel there is a pretty good chance this guy was dead serious...
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- KVRian
- 1185 posts since 27 Apr, 2016
Serum is an excellent synth, it is silky smooth in operation/Gui knobs etc. and the knobs relate well to what you hear when in travel. It is one of the cleanest (just like its GUI) sounding synths without being totally sterile. That is a fine line to walk and the guy who made it did that very well. The effects are very usable on serum as well.
That is why many non clueless idiots use Serum.
However Serum is not a synth you would use as a first choice for example for vintage sounding synthesis as it would require much more work to get it into that sonic space.
Very good for modern and clean sounding, metallic, spacey, twisted, distorted sounds and FM styles, lots of cross oscillator sound mangling possible.
I had Sylenth1 first, other than a few obscure forerunners then somehow I bought about 25 other VSTi's many of them mainly subtractive. (often with WT's though)
I don't regret any of them as they all do something very unique. And what price on sonic enjoyment ? I am sure some spend $5K on golf clubs. I am still getting the value from that investment in synths. And just for balance I own 3 U-He synths as well I just don't put them on a pedestal, it depends more on what music you make what fits the bill best.
Even that can change over time.
Sound is one of the most important parts of my life, for some it's their car, the gym, motorbike, garden or their clothes beyond family and loved ones.
That is why many non clueless idiots use Serum.
However Serum is not a synth you would use as a first choice for example for vintage sounding synthesis as it would require much more work to get it into that sonic space.
Very good for modern and clean sounding, metallic, spacey, twisted, distorted sounds and FM styles, lots of cross oscillator sound mangling possible.
I had Sylenth1 first, other than a few obscure forerunners then somehow I bought about 25 other VSTi's many of them mainly subtractive. (often with WT's though)
I don't regret any of them as they all do something very unique. And what price on sonic enjoyment ? I am sure some spend $5K on golf clubs. I am still getting the value from that investment in synths. And just for balance I own 3 U-He synths as well I just don't put them on a pedestal, it depends more on what music you make what fits the bill best.
Even that can change over time.
Sound is one of the most important parts of my life, for some it's their car, the gym, motorbike, garden or their clothes beyond family and loved ones.
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- KVRAF
- 1562 posts since 31 Dec, 2020
Bold move: recommending Bazille over Diva!Ah_Dziz wrote: Wed Apr 12, 2023 4:57 am Diva is nice but it's very focused on being a relatively simple analog style subtractive synth. I'd get Zebra and zebraHZ (it has the diva filters) before diva, or even Bazille. Those both can do amazing subtractive sounds but also do much much more as well and that's just staying with Uhe products. You didn't say what intend to do with diva so it's difficult to recommend much. Diva is very nice though. I like it for very thick chords, keys, and pads mostly.
Bazille is highly modular, not easy to grasp, and very unique. The effects aren't great IMO and the mod sequencer is bizarre. Once you figure out the tapmap stuff it opens up more. It's largely an FM/phase distotion synth. It is nothing like Diva. I think Diva is impressive, but dated.
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- KVRAF
- 5271 posts since 2 Jul, 2005
I just think it's a better sounding synth. It's not that complex if you're making the kinds of sounds that diva makes. The filters are crazy flexible as well. I have both but diva has always been a bit boring for me.
Don't F**K with Mr. Zero.
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- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
I feel that I will make people crazy but if we are talking about very good sounding synths, I always had a crush for Spire... How come isn't it more praised. Surely it is much less easy to use than Serum or even Diva but I love the way it sounds...
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- KVRian
- 783 posts since 16 Jun, 2022
Diva is good at emulating the general spirit of analog synths without being good at emulating any particular synth if it makes sense. Sounds really good but like any VST you probably don't need it.
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- KVRist
- 222 posts since 22 Nov, 2022
I agree, Spire sounds very rich and full. When I first played with it, I hadn't been so impressed by the pure sound of a vst since Sylenth; just feels very lush and organic overall.Jac459 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:26 pm I feel that I will make people crazy but if we are talking about very good sounding synths, I always had a crush for Spire... How come isn't it more praised. Surely it is much less easy to use than Serum or even Diva but I love the way it sounds...
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- KVRAF
- 4070 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
Spire was consolidating as Sylenth1 replacement and a next generation VA when Serum came along and stole its thunder.Jac459 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:26 pm I feel that I will make people crazy but if we are talking about very good sounding synths, I always had a crush for Spire... How come isn't it more praised. Surely it is much less easy to use than Serum or even Diva but I love the way it sounds...
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- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Yes you are right. And I can see why when I compare both UI.rod_zero wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 9:43 pmSpire was consolidating as Sylenth1 replacement and a next generation VA when Serum came along and stole its thunder.Jac459 wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 2:26 pm I feel that I will make people crazy but if we are talking about very good sounding synths, I always had a crush for Spire... How come isn't it more praised. Surely it is much less easy to use than Serum or even Diva but I love the way it sounds...
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- KVRAF
- 26927 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Bazille is incredible sounding... and can make such a wide range of organic sounds!Ah_Dziz wrote: Tue Apr 18, 2023 1:32 pm I just think it's a better sounding synth. It's not that complex if you're making the kinds of sounds that diva makes. The filters are crazy flexible as well. I have both but diva has always been a bit boring for me.
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- KVRian
- 901 posts since 27 Apr, 2018
Might be, that most of the clueless idiots get attracted by Serum because it is really easy to master at least with the first steps and there are many tutorials for almost everything. But that doesn't imply the other way around, that all Serum Users are clueless idiots. In terms of GUI, Serum is a real piece of art, because it has the widest spread, which I can think of, between an easy to use GUI, making it almost perceived as an undercomplex synth in the first step and therefore going incredibly deep, if you want. Don't forget: Serum has some features you still find rarely anywhere else today like up to 8 MSEGs, freely configurable as LFO or ENV and each point and curve bend can get modulated itself. Or it has still the most complex/deep Wavetable-Editor in the market, including formula editor, import wavefiles, or draw curve/additive. Or you can freely draw a waveshape in the distortion Fx, or.....
So you could spend half a lifetime to explore all the capabilities, if you want. Far beyond a synth just only for idiots, I think. If you then get happy with the sound, is another story.
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- KVRAF
- 2294 posts since 23 May, 2012 from London
Something that is blindingly obvious to most of us here, except the small minority who equate not liking or properly understanding something, to "it's bad" or "it's only for idiots" etc.SamDi wrote: Wed Apr 19, 2023 10:08 am So you could spend half a lifetime to explore all the capabilities, if you want. Far beyond a synth just only for idiots, I think. If you then get happy with the sound, is another story.
Always Read the Manual!