Arturia releases LEXICON LX-24

[Artie Fichelle]

At this discount price, I bought it, using it for some 80 stuff, at least that's the plan.

[Lbdunequest]

RC24 and Valhalla VintageVerb sound nothing like a Lexicon 224, so there's that. But regardless, people choose such reverbs for an aesthetic, not for realism, that is for sure.

But when did KVR become a place with such shitty abusive people?

Actually they can sound very similar and they suppose to have sound of the famous 80s reverb.

KVR was always not very fon for all-know-it-all idiots who talk bullshit and stuff they dont know.

Also dont pretend to be the one abused since you the one started insults.

[jamcat]

Show your work

[Lbdunequest]

Show your work

Why? Please show your credibility and arguments to proove that LX224 is only for 80s stuff.

[Artie Fichelle]

When you make a piece of music with it now, it logically is also for new stuff. Side remark: it is incredible how much crap stuff can be made with excellent gear.

[jamcat]

I didn’t say it was “only for ‘80s stuff.” I said that when you use a 224 or a true model, you are referencing the immediately recognizable sound of the early to mid ‘80s, when the 224 was ubiquitous. Whether you know it or not, and whether you mean to or not, that’s what you’re doing.

What exactly zero people are doing in 2023 is using a 224 because it’s the best, most realistic acoustic space simulator money can buy. They’re using it because they want a very specific sound they’ve heard before. They may simply be copying someone else who makes whatever styles you mentioned, but they’re inevitably copying someone who’s copying someone who’s copying someone from the ‘80s.

I did make one mistake in my post. I said the Lexicon 224 was 3 rack spaces, but I meant 4. The 480 was 3 rack spaces.

[Rickskii]

I didn’t say it was “only for ‘80s stuff.” I said that when you use a 224 or a true model, you are referencing the immediately recognizable sound of the early to mid ‘80s, when the 224 was ubiquitous. Whether you know it or not, and whether you mean to or not, that’s what you’re doing.

What exactly zero people are doing in 2023 is using a 224 because it’s the best, most realistic acoustic space simulator money can buy. They’re using it because they want a very specific sound they’ve heard before. They may simply be copying someone else who makes whatever styles you mentioned, but they’re inevitably copying someone who’s copying someone who’s copying someone from the ‘80s.

I did make one mistake in my post. I said the Lexicon 224 was 3 rack spaces, but I meant 4. The 480 was 3 rack spaces.

I am not using it because it reminds of a specific sound or copying someone. I am using it because I like it.

[audiouser720]

I wish the predelay could be set to longer than 150ms

[jamcat]

Put it on an aux send with Voxengo Sound Delay in front of it. Then you can have more predelay than you could ever want.

[audiouser720]

Yes I know, but I like to use it as insert. Not a big deal anyway.

[Scotty]

Jamcat, is it safe to assume that your work is easily identifiable now? When did you decide to share your material? I'd enjoy giving it a listen. Always enjoy hearing the offerings of my fellow KVR denizens.

Show your work

[revvy]

Jamcat, is it safe to assume that your work is easily identifiable now? When did you decide to share your material? I'd enjoy giving it a listen. Always enjoy hearing the offerings of my fellow KVR denizens.

Show your work

+1 He's a very respected user here, be great to learn something from his undoubted production prowess.

[jamcat]

Jamcat, is it safe to assume that your work is easily identifiable now? When did you decide to share your material? I'd enjoy giving it a listen. Always enjoy hearing the offerings of my fellow KVR denizens.

Show your work

You clearly didn’t understand the meaning.

[bmanic]

But when did KVR become a place with such shitty abusive people?

.. since people joined in 2019 with almost 4000 posts, many of which are extremely confrontational and down right rude most of the time?

Maybe it's time for you to buy a few mirrors to hang around your house? It's sometimes good for the soul to have a look at your own reflection.

[bmanic]

Yeah, because it sounds more like a diffuse, filtered delay than a real reverb...

That is indeed it's strength, not being so diffuse. It's also one of it's weaknesses for sure. This is definitely not a desert island reverb plugin. It's more of a one trick pony but that trick is awesome and works in a lot of genres of music.

What do you think of Relab’s 480 in general and also in terms of how it envelopes around the sound and melts into the mix comparing to the 224?

I am of course aware that they are 2 completely different things but you have spoken so highly about LX-24 in terms of how it sits in the mix. I wonder if Relab 480 has the same properties but perhaps more of a desert island reverb? I have always found the 224 more interesting on synths at least. I have an OTO BAM which I love and I think the 224 is closer to that sound than the 480.

Relab 480 is probably the most accurate Lexicon emulation on the market. I could literally not tell it apart in their famous blind test they posted many years ago so in terms of accuracy, it's absolutely 100% spot on.

As a reverb, compared to the 224 it's quite different sounding. It's way more "realistic" and much more capable to be a go-to reverb. It's delay pattern and the diffused buildup is much denser yet has the same ability to be very unobtrusive to the original sounds frequency response (which is mostly Barry Blesser's "Lexicon sound" to my ears), that is, it just blends with or behind the sound without really altering the overall tonality.

As a choice, you just need to download both demos and go from there. The 224 is a much more signature type of sound whereas the 480 can sound quite modern and even be a bit sparkly and "sizzly" in a pleasant way. I just seem to really like the 224 sound, a lot.

My current most used reverbs are (in no particular order):

Arturia LX 24 (naturally I'm still in the honeymoon phase with it)
Liquidsonics Tai Chi
Liquidsonics Seventh Heaven (Bricasti clone)
Ariesverb (yes I still use it to this day but it's days are numbered as it wont be updated for M1 native)
UVI Plate (best super dense plate reverb ever made but a real CPU hog)
UVI Sparkverb (a peculiar own type of character to it that I like)
Valhalla Room and Vintage Verb (these need no introductions)
Valhalla Supermassive
Fabfilter Pro-R (very good for tucking in a bit of reverb room/hall realism behind a sound in mono)
Eventide Blackhole (I don't use this often but sometimes it's the perfect choice!)
Eventide SP2016, the new one (very unique character, usually on percussion and stabby synths)
Relab Sonig (amazing general purpose verb for many things!)
Audiority Xenoverb (versatile yet always unique sounding)
Native Instruments Raum (very unique sound texture to it's 3 algorithms)

Those are the ones I usually choose from. I always use a ton of reverb plugins in every project. It's not uncommon for me to have 6 to 10 different reverbs going, most of them at super subtle low levels (and usually very narrow or completely mono). Each doing their own thing.

Yeah, after dynamics plugins, reverbs are my 2nd passion. There's just something about a good reverb that is so satisfying.

I'm also in the process of extracting various reverbs from Reaktor ensembles. Some have rather unique designs it seem.