Roland Cloud

[WatchTheGuitar]

Just checked out the Jup 4 and 8 v2 and I like the look, but not 100% sold on the new preset browser, it’s an improvement on the old modal window one but could do with manual tagging and tag filters.

[noiseboyuk]

MKS-70 and JX-10 sounded inferior to JX-8P in every comparison I've heard so far and it wasn't subtle. Even though Roland intended them to be JX-8P successors, "two JX in one" thing, it didn't work out like that. They couldn't succeed over and replace JX-8P.

I used to own an MKS-70 back in the day. I never had a JX-8P to compare it with, but I was always pretty disappointed with it so sold it. Bad combination of lacklustre sound and horrible front panel - that programmer would have helped I guess.

[D-Fusion]

Is Circuit Mod available on System's 8 plugout? Can anyone confirm? I don't see any System 8 firmware update...

Found this one explaining how to update the plugouts on the System 8

[PAK]

Doesn't the ACB Juno-106 predate the JU-06A

Yes. It was first released with the JU-06 in 2015. So it predates the System 8 too. The 60 was released with the 2019 "A" update.

Taking into consideration the new 2.0 circuit modelling tweaking allows you deeper access to what technicians used in "service mode", I'll wager the ACB work was bit more involved than we think.

Possibly. Though the remarks were meant more specifically about the likelihood of new ACB products, and how they've often been tied to hardware considerations. The Jupiter 4 was a notable exception though, whether planned or due to "pandemic difficulties". If planned then it's possible future ACB stuff might not be so tied to other hardware. Guess we'll see..

[Hanz Meyzer]

What about VST3 M1 arm support in Juno-v2, Jupiter-8-v2 and Zenology-v2? Or is ARM still only in the AUs available?

[Jon at Roland]

Hi everyone! My name is Jon and I work for Roland Cloud. I'm seeing a lot of people asking what has changed with v2 of the Jupiter-4, Jupiter-8 and JUNO-106 so I thought I'd share some resources on the new feautres.

All three instruments are now AU/VST/AAX fully Silicon Native. We also added a Circuit Mod knob and new sound banks. We made changes to the interface of each instrument, updated the graphics and made some adjustments to workflow including a new searchable browser that allows you to rate all your favorite patches. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions!

[Fleer]

Great to see you here, Jon.
You and Brian are most welcome to guide us through Roland Cloud.

[Brian.McClelland]

Brian.McClelland have you thought of bringing back Roland JP8080 (not 8000)?

Hi, Lbdunequest. Yep! We definitely get requests for the JP-8080 specifically. Generally, when we build software instruments, we look at both the main instrument and the rack mount versions to see which features or patches people want the most. We'll add your vote for the JP-8080 specifically to the request list for this week.

Will Roland Cloud Sound Canvas VA be going VST3 on Windows at some point?

Hi, Aloysius. Sound Canvas VA definitely has a dedicated following. We've got your request for SCVA to be updated to our list.

Brian.McClelland well if you are looking for things to add to the weekly list please add the Roland SH5. I have a hardware SH2 & SH101 but I really like the earlier generation. The System 100 sounds great but the SH5 adds in the bandpass filter amongst other things.

+ 1 for sh5 and jupiter 6

Hey, ChamomileShark & racer. You got it! That bandpass is a great filter. We've got your vote for the SH-5 covered.

I just want a JX-8P to load into my System 8.

And maybe a Jupiter 8 rev2 with the Circuit Mod from the J4

Hey, J Veronica. Got that JX-8P request logged for you. Have you tried the new JUPITER-8 v2 yet? We just added the Circuit mod to the JUNO-106, JUPITER-8, and JUPITER-4. It's such a fun way to push the bounds of your favorite instruments.

Hey, ReiKru & randomtestsubject. The Alpha JUNOs are some of my favorite Roland synths as well. I'll add these votes to our weekly request report.

Lol, that weekly request list for the alpha juno must be many entries by now.
But it is really sad they never go from that list to the productionlist.

Just say no, it aint that hard.

Hey, Septic. We keep the request list as a running tally that way when we do gear up for production for new instruments, we are up with the current feedback from the community. We're always interested in what people want to see in Roland Cloud!

THIS X1000!!!! Been asking Brian M for years. All I get is “we hear you”. Roland has no intention of doing an ACB JX-8P. I’d wager our System 8’s are officially deprecated (despite the fact you can still buy them new).

Hey, EnochLight. Sounds fun! I might take that wager.

Is Circuit Mod available on System's 8 plugout? Can anyone confirm? I don't see any System 8 firmware update...

Hey, Roman Wisniak. Yes! You can control Circuit Mod on the SYSTEM-8 for compatible PLUG-OUTS. OSC 3 Color knob will do it if a JUPITER-8, JUNO-106, or JUPITER-4 is loaded. Great question!

VTS3 in Cubase 12 apple silicon native absolutly unusable, damn... Crazy realtime spikes

Hi, Iva. Thanks for checking out the new Legendary versions! We've heard reports of this on some systems. If you are experiencing spiking with the instruments, try the Optimize for Lower CPU setting in the Options menu. This helps alleviate CPU cost and smooth out the response. Another option is to increase the buffer size, or try 2/4/6 voices in the Voice Limit settings.

If you are still experiencing issues, let us know your OS, DAW version, and which instrument through the Support Portal in the top right corner in the Settings menu in the top right corner of Roland Cloud Manager, and we'll review for testing.

What about VST3 M1 arm support in Juno-v2, Jupiter-8-v2 and Zenology-v2? Or is ARM still only in the AUs available?

Hey, Hanz Meyzer. The Legendary v2s are good to go for ARM. Try em out!

[Synthient Sound]

Hey Jon and Brian!
First, the new preset browser is fantastic and I'm really happy with it. Circuit Mod is really great at moderate setting for making them sound like my old Rolands. And I'm ready to go Silicon soon, so thanks!

About the CPU...there are some problems I've noticed which match what others have mentioned. I've been running Roland Cloud since 2018 and am very familiar with how it performs. On my 2019 Macbook Pro (i9 2.6GHz Intel in latest Logic Pro/Ventura), the CPU is maxing out a core now with the plugin window open and lots of crackles. This didn't happen before. When I close the plugin GUI, they CPU drops to between 40-50% on that core-but-it does spike up regularly to 75-100%. Just another data point for you to pass along.

I'm very much looking forward to the JX-3P going v2 and please add my request to the hundreds already for a JX-8P.

[Hanz Meyzer]

Hm, the reports about crazy cpu spikes on Mac arm bother me. A native arm version should be at least as twice as fast as a rosetta2-translated version. Also cpu spikes are a total no-go in real-time calculation. The Synths sound indeed nice in the videos, but it seems to be an beta regarding optimization…. Also i wonder if zenology v2 vst3 now runs natively on arm, too. Why aren’t you explicitly printing a detailed arm compatibility info in the specs? Au only is not enough for me, as my daws do not support au at all.

[kmonkey]

So I have a TR-8S. I like it a lot. But sometimes I really just want to (shocker) work with my computer screen. I also have their TR editor but it is not VST plugin. So my question would be - is there any plan to release editr as a VST or perhaps there will be TR-8S VST plugin?

[J Veronica]

I just want a JX-8P to load into my System 8.

And maybe a Jupiter 8 rev2 with the Circuit Mod from the J4

Hey, J Veronica. Got that JX-8P request logged for you. Have you tried the new JUPITER-8 v2 yet? We just added the Circuit mod to the JUNO-106, JUPITER-8, and JUPITER-4. It's such a fun way to push the bounds of your favorite instruments.

Lol, great timing! The GUIs look really nice on a 4k screen.

With the Circuit Mod on the J8, I'm all set. Any other ACB instruments are a blessing at this point. Incredible for a 6-7 year old synthesizer to still be getting expansions.

[frag]

DONT UPDATE!!!!

Just posted this on GS:
haha wtf, i just checked the new ones and it is totally unusable with cpu spiking now, never had that here on my macpro,

it fecking eats 10 total threads/5 cores on triggering some notes, crackles and pops all around.
Goddamn what a amateurish BS is this Roland.

They killed those 3 plugs now LOL. No way to go back to the earlier versions ofc, great beta testing guys. Kudos

These older synth manufacturers simply lost tempo...
For example, take Diva, Omnisphere, Spire + Kontakt for hq acoustic instruments. That's all you need. It runs fine even on laptop, providing it's high spec.
For live performances, though, I would still choose hardware synth.
Win laptop may try to update itself in the middle of the concert

[Atlatnesiti]

Well, Legendary Series of Plugins is definitely NOT VST 3 AS Native...!
The only Roland Plugins that pass verification by Cubase 12 Pro and Ableton Live Suite 11 are:
- JD-800
- Juno 106
- Jupiter 4 and 5
- Zenology and Zenology FX
When is the rest coming... It's been a long time...

[EnochLight]

I just want a JX-8P to load into my System 8.

Hey, J Veronica. Got that JX-8P request logged for you.

THIS X1000!!!! Been asking Brian M for years. All I get is “we hear you”. Roland has no intention of doing an ACB JX-8P. I’d wager our System 8’s are officially deprecated (despite the fact you can still buy them new).

Hey, EnochLight. Sounds fun! I might take that wager.

Hahahaha - man, you're killing us. I mean, the fact that no one from Roland/Roland Cloud has literally said "no, we can't do an ACB of the JX-8P that will run on the System 8" does give me hope, but dude - DUDE - it's been years. If we have to start a Kickstarter to fund the dev time, let us know and I'll start one! But for the love of all that is vintage synth holy, please PLEASE elevate this on your list. You will go down in history as being legendary. And a top notch fella.