Roland Cloud

[Fleer]

Thanks Jon

[Synthient Sound]

Hey Jon and Brian!
First, the new preset browser is fantastic and I'm really happy with it. Circuit Mod is really great at moderate setting for making them sound like my old Rolands. And I'm ready to go Silicon soon, so thanks!

About the CPU...there are some problems I've noticed which match what others have mentioned. I've been running Roland Cloud since 2018 and am very familiar with how it performs. On my 2019 Macbook Pro (i9 2.6GHz Intel in latest Logic Pro/Ventura), the CPU is maxing out a core now with the plugin window open and lots of crackles. This didn't happen before. When I close the plugin GUI, they CPU drops to between 40-50% on that core-but-it does spike up regularly to 75-100%. Just another data point for you to pass along.

I'm very much looking forward to the JX-3P going v2 and please add my request to the hundreds already for a JX-8P.

Hi Synthient Sound! Jon from Roland Cloud. Happy to hear you are enjoying v2! I love the Circuit Mod, it adds so much complexity and unpredictability to every patch!

We always appreciate the feedback and are actively testing to try and recreate the issues some users are experiencing. Some tips you can try in the meantime. There is an option to "Optimize for Lower CPU Usage", you can find this by clicking the settings button in the upper right corner of the instrument window. This can really help in large sessions with a ton of moving parts. You can also try increasing the Buffer Size from 128 to 512 samples in your daw. And depending on how much polyphony you are using you can try lowering the number of voices. You can find this option in the same drop down menu where you find Optimize for Lower CPU Usage. Let us know if you have any questions! Thanks so much!

Hey Jon, this is a new problem with the v2...have had the originals for a long time. Spiking CPU is not a matter of buffer size here and I would never record at 512. I don't like to record at even 128, but I set it just to try the v2s. I'm reporting that there is a problem with the code. My computer has plenty of power for all my other plugins.

Would have rather heard that you guys acknowledge the problems we are having and are working on it. It is ok to say something more than we are trying to recreate it.

[perpetual3]

Totally agree with you but I would guess that the Roland reps here probably can’t say that. They probably have strict limits on what they can say publicly.

Hey Jon and Brian!
First, the new preset browser is fantastic and I'm really happy with it. Circuit Mod is really great at moderate setting for making them sound like my old Rolands. And I'm ready to go Silicon soon, so thanks!

About the CPU...there are some problems I've noticed which match what others have mentioned. I've been running Roland Cloud since 2018 and am very familiar with how it performs. On my 2019 Macbook Pro (i9 2.6GHz Intel in latest Logic Pro/Ventura), the CPU is maxing out a core now with the plugin window open and lots of crackles. This didn't happen before. When I close the plugin GUI, they CPU drops to between 40-50% on that core-but-it does spike up regularly to 75-100%. Just another data point for you to pass along.

I'm very much looking forward to the JX-3P going v2 and please add my request to the hundreds already for a JX-8P.

Hi Synthient Sound! Jon from Roland Cloud. Happy to hear you are enjoying v2! I love the Circuit Mod, it adds so much complexity and unpredictability to every patch!

We always appreciate the feedback and are actively testing to try and recreate the issues some users are experiencing. Some tips you can try in the meantime. There is an option to "Optimize for Lower CPU Usage", you can find this by clicking the settings button in the upper right corner of the instrument window. This can really help in large sessions with a ton of moving parts. You can also try increasing the Buffer Size from 128 to 512 samples in your daw. And depending on how much polyphony you are using you can try lowering the number of voices. You can find this option in the same drop down menu where you find Optimize for Lower CPU Usage. Let us know if you have any questions! Thanks so much!

Hey Jon, this is a new problem with the v2...have had the originals for a long time. Spiking CPU is not a matter of buffer size here and I would never record at 512. I don't like to record at even 128, but I set it just to try the v2s. I'm reporting that there is a problem with the code. My computer has plenty of power for all my other plugins.

Would have rather heard that you guys acknowledge the problems we are having and are working on it. It is ok to say something more than we are trying to recreate it.

[kmonkey]

So I have a TR-8S. I like it a lot. But sometimes I really just want to (shocker) work with my computer screen. I also have their TR editor but it is not VST plugin. So my question would be - is there any plan to release editr as a VST or perhaps there will be TR-8S VST plugin?

Hey kmonkey! The TR-8S is such a powerful machine. An absolutely stellar groovebox! A plug in version of the editor would be very cool and I'll add it to the weekly request list!

That sounds really promising. Fingers crossed. I am aware it's not an easy task. But with the recent releases and graphical improvements of products I am confident perhaps something can be done.

All the best to you and your team.

[J Veronica]

If the Circuit Mod comes to the System 8 engine, I wonder where they'll map it to. I guess it could go in the menu with the Condition control.

On the Junos, I'd just use it on unison patches. Feels too weird to have a DCO synth get loose, heh.

[Korg Supporter]

If the Circuit Mod comes to the System 8 engine, I wonder where they'll map it to. I guess it could go in the menu with the Condition control.

On the Junos, I'd just use it on unison patches. Feels too weird to have a DCO synth get loose, heh.

It'll be mapped to the color knob when you update the plugouts.

[perpetual3]

Roland has already made the editor for the SP404mk2 (which I have) as a AU/VST3 plugin on Mac, but I think the difference is that the SP is a class compliant device while the TR8s is not. So, in addition to VST version of the editor (or better CLAP) I kindly request making the TR8s also class compliant.

Hey Jon and Brian!
First, the new preset browser is fantastic and I'm really happy with it. Circuit Mod is really great at moderate setting for making them sound like my old Rolands. And I'm ready to go Silicon soon, so thanks!

About the CPU...there are some problems I've noticed which match what others have mentioned. I've been running Roland Cloud since 2018 and am very familiar with how it performs. On my 2019 Macbook Pro (i9 2.6GHz Intel in latest Logic Pro/Ventura), the CPU is maxing out a core now with the plugin window open and lots of crackles. This didn't happen before. When I close the plugin GUI, they CPU drops to between 40-50% on that core-but-it does spike up regularly to 75-100%. Just another data point for you to pass along.

I'm very much looking forward to the JX-3P going v2 and please add my request to the hundreds already for a JX-8P.

Hi Synthient Sound! Jon from Roland Cloud. Happy to hear you are enjoying v2! I love the Circuit Mod, it adds so much complexity and unpredictability to every patch!

We always appreciate the feedback and are actively testing to try and recreate the issues some users are experiencing. Some tips you can try in the meantime. There is an option to "Optimize for Lower CPU Usage", you can find this by clicking the settings button in the upper right corner of the instrument window. This can really help in large sessions with a ton of moving parts. You can also try increasing the Buffer Size from 128 to 512 samples in your daw. And depending on how much polyphony you are using you can try lowering the number of voices. You can find this option in the same drop down menu where you find Optimize for Lower CPU Usage. Let us know if you have any questions! Thanks so much!

So I have a TR-8S. I like it a lot. But sometimes I really just want to (shocker) work with my computer screen. I also have their TR editor but it is not VST plugin. So my question would be - is there any plan to release editr as a VST or perhaps there will be TR-8S VST plugin?

Hey kmonkey! The TR-8S is such a powerful machine. An absolutely stellar groovebox! A plug in version of the editor would be very cool and I'll add it to the weekly request list!

Well, Legendary Series of Plugins is definitely NOT VST 3 AS Native...!
The only Roland Plugins that pass verification by Cubase 12 Pro and Ableton Live Suite 11 are:
- JD-800
- Juno 106
- Jupiter 4 and 5
- Zenology and Zenology FX
When is the rest coming... It's been a long time...

Hi Atlatnesiti. We are actively working to make similar updates to other Legendary Synths. Stay Tuned!

[WatchTheGuitar]

The problem is they’re using the TR-8S USB to pipe MIDI and Audio so either they need to use a driver or they need to create a tech like Elektron developed with Overbridge that enables a plugin to handle the multi channel audio. I would love that because right now I don’t use my TR-8S as I don’t have enough spare audio inputs to handle the discrete tracks.

[EnochLight]

The problem is they’re using the TR-8S USB to pipe MIDI and Audio so either they need to use a driver or they need to create a tech like Elektron developed with Overbridge that enables a plugin to handle the multi channel audio. I would love that because right now I don’t use my TR-8S as I don’t have enough spare audio inputs to handle the discrete tracks.

Strangely, I can use Roland's MX-1 mixer and send multichannel audio via my Akai Force, and it's just tapping into stock USB Class Compliant drivers (even though the MX-1 doesn't officially have USB CC drivers). Not sure why they can't get the TR-8S to play nice.

[frag]

You can also try increasing the Buffer Size from 128 to 512 samples in your daw. And depending on how much polyphony you are using you can try lowering the number of voices.

In fact, why not raise it to 2048 samples.
That's what we want in 2023 - 5 seconds latency and one voice.

Of course one can use Roland plugins in a track, but for example, I had a "real" Juno-60, and when I tried the Roland plugin I didn't have "that feeling" at all.
On the other hand, with TAL emulation, I had "that feeling".
Isn't it absurd that 3rd party emulations sound better and perform better within DAWs, than Roland?

[EnochLight]

On the other hand, with TAL emulation, I had "that feeling".
Isn't it absurd that 3rd party emulations sound better ...than Roland?

Purely subjective. I think TAL sounds "meh, OK". Roland's - especially with this recent update - sound better.

[perpetual3]

The problem is they’re using the TR-8S USB to pipe MIDI and Audio so either they need to use a driver or they need to create a tech like Elektron developed with Overbridge that enables a plugin to handle the multi channel audio. I would love that because right now I don’t use my TR-8S as I don’t have enough spare audio inputs to handle the discrete tracks.

There is a driver. Or am I missing something?

[Fleer]

That Jupiter-8 v2.0 is an absolute marvel.

[WatchTheGuitar]

The problem is they’re using the TR-8S USB to pipe MIDI and Audio so either they need to use a driver or they need to create a tech like Elektron developed with Overbridge that enables a plugin to handle the multi channel audio. I would love that because right now I don’t use my TR-8S as I don’t have enough spare audio inputs to handle the discrete tracks.

There is a driver. Or am I missing something?

I mean a Roland built driver you have to install rather than a class compliant one.

[WatchTheGuitar]

The problem is they’re using the TR-8S USB to pipe MIDI and Audio so either they need to use a driver or they need to create a tech like Elektron developed with Overbridge that enables a plugin to handle the multi channel audio. I would love that because right now I don’t use my TR-8S as I don’t have enough spare audio inputs to handle the discrete tracks.

Strangely, I can use Roland's MX-1 mixer and send multichannel audio via my Akai Force, and it's just tapping into stock USB Class Compliant drivers (even though the MX-1 doesn't officially have USB CC drivers). Not sure why they can't get the TR-8S to play nice.

That is curious. Could it be the AKAI Force uses a plugin like the Elektron ones and you can grab the multichannel audio from there?