Is Omnisphere 2 still worth it?

[Jac459]

Truly, the vast range of soundbanks from Luftrum and others have always showed how greatly this synth suffers due to the limitation of those monophonic envelopes. Every patch, I thought "if only this synth were deeper, these guys could really have done some nice patches."

I dont think you get it... You can create crazy rich monotonic sounds with omnisphere, that's not the point.

But you can also admit that only 2 polyphonic modulators create a lots of use case restrictions...

And these use cases are relevant. Rich polyphonic MSEG is one of the direction the industry is taking. Look at CLAP, look at the latest bitwig update. You can perfectly say I don't need this. But you can't say the need doesn’t exist.

[mholloway]

Truly, the vast range of soundbanks from Luftrum and others have always showed how greatly this synth suffers due to the limitation of those monophonic envelopes. Every patch, I thought "if only this synth were deeper, these guys could really have done some nice patches."

I dont think you get it... You can create crazy rich monotonic sounds with omnisphere, that's not the point.

But you can also admit that only 2 polyphonic modulators create a lots of use case restrictions...

And these use cases are relevant. Rich polyphonic MSEG is one of the direction the industry is taking. Look at CLAP, look at the latest bitwig update. You can perfectly say I don't need this. But you can't say the need doesn’t exist.

If "getting it" is believing Omnisphere isn't actually a "deep" synth and being upset about it, then I'm very, very happy to not get it.

[Jac459]

If "getting it" is believing Omnisphere isn't actually a "deep" synth and being upset about it, then I'm very, very happy to not get it.

"Ignorance is a bliss...."

[Touch The Universe]

Omni is the Bomni

[noiseboyuk]

Wonder if there’s a structural limitation for why the envelopes aren’t polyphonic of if it’s more to do with CPU? Or the fact very few ever want or need it? It certainly hadn’t ever occurred to me in the 14 years I’ve owned it.

[worldfever]

Never been a fan of omnisphere, I have it but it just doesnt inspire me at all interface wise and i feel like a lot of the presets are overused even though there are so many. it's an amazing product with crazy possibilities though

[Jac459]

Wonder if there’s a structural limitation for why the envelopes aren’t polyphonic of if it’s more to do with CPU? Or the fact very few ever want or need it? It certainly hadn’t ever occurred to me in the 14 years I’ve owned it.

That's an interesting point. I am quite sure you didn't miss it for 14 years.
But I personally think that the direction of the industry is going on more and more modulations features. Oscillators and effects have less innovation now (maybe Grain + spectral synth but it is not so new anymore). If you look at many new synths, modulations are a deciding factors with some synths having wavetables for LFOs...
This allows to more and more organic sounds that we can also hear more and more in modern music production. It was pioneered by people like Mirwais or Skrillex, but it is much more mainstream now.

So going back to the original question, certainly Omnisphere 2 has always been and is still an awesome synth, but the lack of polyphonic modulations start to show its age...

So my conclusive point is that in terms of synthesis sources and effects, Omnispere stays up to date, in terms of modulations, it starts to age...

[noiseboyuk]

Jac459 - if you own Omni and it's a feature that matters to you, why not write to support and make a feature request?

[Jac459]

Jac459 - if you own Omni and it's a feature that matters to you, why not write to support and make a feature request?

Because I don't believe I will be listened to.

But your point is valid, I may be wrong.

[noiseboyuk]

Jac - it would just be interesting to see what they say. I doubt they would commit to anything, but it might be that others have asked and they're aware at least.

Spectrasonics have a good track record of new features and improvements. Of course it's very much on their terms, but one of the reasons that people still love the synth now is that it's always expanding and improving (and only once has that been paid-for).

[Jac459]

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Dear team,

Omnisphere is an awesome synth and subject of many discussions on KVR forums.

One "limitation" that we have been debating here:
viewtopic.php?p=8666628#p8666628
is the number of polyphonic modulations. 2 seems a bit limited in view of the huge other capacities of the synth.

Do you happen to have an increase of this number in your roadmap?
Thanks in advance,
. ..

[liquidsound]

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Text:
Dear team,

Omnisphere is an awesome synth and subject of many discussions on KVR forums.

One "limitation" that we have been debating here:
viewtopic.php?p=8666628#p8666628
is the number of polyphonic modulations. 2 seems a bit limited in view of the huge other capacities of the synth.

Do you happen to have an increase of this number in your roadmap?
Thanks in advance,
. ..

And…and… you didn’t mentioned CLAP!!!

[Jac459]

And…and… you didn’t mentioned CLAP!!!

Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck !

[cocoazenith]

As an Omnisphere 2 owner I'd definitely say it's not worth it. Although I do not own many plugins (and no hardware) Omnisphere has never been the centerpiece of my compositions. I always force myself to use it, in a way to justify throwing €400 on it 10 years ago.

IMO there are better (both in terms of sound and user experience) and cheaper options available in 2023. It's a different plug-in era than when O2 was released really. I hope Spectrasonics take heed of the immense changes that have happened in the past 5 years or so.

If the update to v3 will not be free I'll double down on my statement.

[LoveEnigma18]

I wish they simplify the tags/filters in the browser to bare minimum, similar to Nexus. That would be a huge thing in itself and what I wish V3 brings.