The Amiga MIDI Myth - Atari ST vs Amiga War
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- KVRAF
- 3496 posts since 30 Dec, 2014
Something that should be entertaining to watch, particularly if you were like me, in the early-mid 1990s creating music with soundtrackers, and trying to figure out hexadecimal codes to change the sounds that were produced. In fact, the first musical piece I ever created (which was half decent) was around 3 and a half minutes long and without a midi keyboard at all, just the qwerty keyboard. I didn't even have a proper midi keyboard at the time so any skills I did have would have long passed even if I was familiar with playing the keys from the age of 4, or at least trying to on my Dads, organ and my little Casio SK1 which I over-volted when I was 14 by accident. I didn't get my first midi keyboard until I was 18 and when I got a Playstation, composing with that kinda left the old Amiga 1200 midi setup in the dust, even though from a technical standpoint it was far more expandable with real MIDI connectivity.
For Amiga fans... not the spinny ones.
For Amiga fans... not the spinny ones.
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- KVRist
- 43 posts since 12 Mar, 2021
Looks like we are the same age. I fondly remember soldering the ram expansion so it was accessible by tracker for holding samples. (chip ram vs fast ram from memory)
- KVRAF
- 2330 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Still had to use only 512K of Chipram for samples and graphics. A1200 gave us 2MB! It was plentyful 
Yeah I was hitting trackers around '87, there were so many different on Amiga. Before that, I had a couple of strange music proggies for C64. Other was made by Domark if I remember right.
Yeah I was hitting trackers around '87, there were so many different on Amiga. Before that, I had a couple of strange music proggies for C64. Other was made by Domark if I remember right.
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- KVRAF
- 2140 posts since 16 Jan, 2013 from USA
I used to market an ear training program for this puppy (A500) called Take Note. I didn't have a hard drive and remember reading books during the 20 minute compile times when I was developing it. Taught me to check my work thoroughly before hitting the button!
- KVRAF
- 2330 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
https://www.ebay.com/itm/125002858988 somebody is selling it stilljonljacobi wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 2:30 pm I used to market an ear training program for this puppy (A500) called Take Note. I didn't have a hard drive and remember reading books during the 20 minute compile times when I was developing it. Taught me to check my work thoroughly before hitting the button!
Yeah that 21MB HDD for A500 was a real lifesaver, until one morning it did not start. A590+ started ok, but disk would not spin. I had no backups... taught me to do backups hard way of course.
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- KVRAF
- 2195 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
I still have a 1200 and monitor. I'm a little bit afraid of turning it on, because the last time I did colors were off... Think I need to change the capacitors
MacMini M2 Pro …… MacOS Tahoe ……… Reason 14
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
Atari 1040ST, you f**king losers.
The PC vs Mac of its day...
The PC vs Mac of its day...
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- KVRian
- 694 posts since 28 Apr, 2004 from location: location
Dynamic Drums by New Wave Software was one of the best sample sequencers I used on the Amiga. It was like an early version of Fruity Loops, although it was released over a decade earlier, 1988. The software was renamed "Dynamic Studio" at a later date; a foreshadow of Fruity's "FL Studio" re-brand.
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- KVRAF
- 2195 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
Pfft! Everyone knows the Amiga was better at everything except of those MIDI ports.donkey tugger wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 4:49 am Atari 1040ST, you f**king losers.
The PC vs Mac of its day...
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- KVRAF
- 5444 posts since 15 Feb, 2020
I think you’ll find it’s Mac vs PCdonkey tugger wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 4:49 am Atari 1040ST, you f**king losers.
The PC vs Mac of its day...
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus
- KVRAF
- 2195 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
Yeah.. the "underdog" who is a multi trillion dollar company must fight against the competition much ahead of its game...revvy wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 6:19 amI think you’ll find it’s Mac vs PCdonkey tugger wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 4:49 am Atari 1040ST, you f**king losers.
The PC vs Mac of its day...![]()
MacMini M2 Pro …… MacOS Tahoe ……… Reason 14
- KVRAF
- 2330 posts since 23 Sep, 2004 from Kocmoc
Yes, even the biggest computer magazine in Finland retroactively admitted Amiga being the better machine overall. Add MIDI and Amiga was already a sample player and a MIDI sequencer. No need for drum machine for example. 22khz 8bit drums were enough and later on 14bit via Octamed Pro using 16bit samples was just .. amazingsQeetz wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 6:11 amPfft! Everyone knows the Amiga was better at everything except of those MIDI ports.donkey tugger wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 4:49 am Atari 1040ST, you f**king losers.
The PC vs Mac of its day...![]()
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- KVRAF
- 5444 posts since 15 Feb, 2020
Erm…alphabetical?sQeetz wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 3:59 pmYeah.. the "underdog" who is a multi trillion dollar company must fight against the competition much ahead of its game...revvy wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 6:19 amI think you’ll find it’s Mac vs PCdonkey tugger wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 4:49 am Atari 1040ST, you f**king losers.
The PC vs Mac of its day...![]()
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Just sounds better
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus
- KVRAF
- 2195 posts since 8 Jan, 2005
indeed it doesrevvy wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 4:01 amErm…alphabetical?sQeetz wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 3:59 pmYeah.. the "underdog" who is a multi trillion dollar company must fight against the competition much ahead of its game...revvy wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 6:19 amI think you’ll find it’s Mac vs PCdonkey tugger wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 4:49 am Atari 1040ST, you f**king losers.
The PC vs Mac of its day...![]()
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Just sounds better![]()
MacMini M2 Pro …… MacOS Tahoe ……… Reason 14
- KVRAF
- 9560 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
I started with an Apple ][ clone with Z80 card built in. Long before C64 or Ataris appeared… Turbo Pascal was my thing to make music. I had to solder my Midi interface for it myself…donkey tugger wrote: Sat May 13, 2023 4:49 am Atari 1040ST, you f**king losers.
The PC vs Mac of its day...