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Super Piano Hater 64 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 4:54 am I can't think of a scenario where polyphonic modulation is strictly necessary, but it's easy to come up with situations where it's a huge convenience....
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To be clear, polyphonic modulations are very common in many synths. Generally synths propose both polyphonic or mono MSEGs, LFOs or ADSRs. You also find them in most of base presets of your synths.
With every DAW, you can also send monophonic modulations to your synths. What you can't do is to send polyphonic modulations.
With CLAP you can.
Imagine that you started a complex melody with a saw on surge XT. This melody is based on chords, lfos, mseg and all polyphonic. Finally you think f....k, I should have used Diva, I prefere their saw sound (just an example). That's not a problem, you just change the symth, you keep all your modulations as they are in the DAW and not in the synth anymore....
Awesome.... (for those who do this kind music).

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BONES wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 12:30 am
Sawtooth Fairy wrote: Wed May 10, 2023 6:46 pmSure, but when I look at the Xpand rompler for instance, the electric bass presets are very weak, the guitars as well, no typical Strat sound. I know there are huge sample libraries for every instrument, but I don't want that, nor can I afford that. Nor could my computer handle all those GB :hihi:
Have you tried any of Ujam's guitars and basses? They are f**king awesome!! This is all from a handful of plugins I paid $69 each for.

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Jesus. With such tasteless noise who cares about the sound of instruments? :o

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BONES wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 5:56 am The thing is, why would I want to slide one note and not the others?
Sorry. I thought that was obvious. Of course you could slide them to different notes. Useful for string parts, especially if you're trying to avoid the dreaded parallel fifth.

Also, to be clear, MPE is one way to achieve polyphonic modulation. It has some limitations compared to using note expression directly in VST3, or the equivalent in CLAP, but the basic idea is there. The biggest drawbacks of MPE are the number of channels you can work with (probably not an issue in practice) and the need to allocate a CC to the desired modulation type (typically not a problem until you run out of modulation slots). It's definitely less convenient than being able to directly manipulate patch parameters, and manually editing existing single-channel MIDI data so you can make it work with MPE is a pain in the neck.
I hate signatures too.

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:lol: :tu:
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El°HYM wrote: Tue May 09, 2023 7:05 pm let me buy you a coffee.
buy now :?
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Sawtooth Fairy wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 1:55 pmJesus. With such tasteless noise who cares about the sound of instruments? :o
I dunno, the people who made it no. 1 in Germany, maybe? So let's hear some of your music, then, eh? Bet you haven't got the guts to post anything.
Super Piano Hater 64 wrote: Thu May 11, 2023 4:46 pmOf course you could slide them to different notes. Useful for string parts, especially if you're trying to avoid the dreaded parallel fifth.
I don't know what a parallel fifth is but it makes sense anyway. Thanks for the enlightenment. I tend to think of these things from a performance perspective, rather than a sequencing one.
The biggest drawbacks of MPE are the number of channels you can work with (probably not an issue in practice) and the need to allocate a CC to the desired modulation type (typically not a problem until you run out of modulation slots). It's definitely less convenient than being able to directly manipulate patch parameters, and manually editing existing single-channel MIDI data so you can make it work with MPE is a pain in the neck.
I mostly look at it and think using multiple instances and/or keyboard splits can achieve everything I've ever seen anyone do with MPE but sliding from one chord to another would be a bit tricky that way. Whenever I've thought about it, I couldn't see a way to do it with your hands and ensure that each note slid to the correct note in the new chord. But, again, I hadn't thought about using the sequencer to ensure it does it correctly, I've only really thought about it in terms of the controller in front of me.
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Punks Not Dead :band:

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Of course it's not, it's basically what we do, except with electronics instead of (just) guitars. That's why it annoys the shit out of me that CYBERPUNK has been stolen by a bunch of pussies.
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The same thing happened to heavy metal ...

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Nostalgia ain’t what it used to be, right?
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus

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Jumpers for goalposts

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;)
I lost my heart in Cap de Creus

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thecontrolcentre wrote: Fri May 12, 2023 1:25 am
Punks Not Dead :band:
Except for the dead punks which let the robot zombies play…
That track is desperately missing the sweat…

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I am puzzled by the choice of using a band name evoking such dark moment of our history....

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