Synth overload?

[vurt]

Mr Lovewood?

nope, she doesn't call me at all

effjp

[Sawtooth Fairy]

Whereas we know the name of every individual who buys a CD or listens to us on Spotify, right? I'm sure our label would be terribly flattered that you think they wield enough power to influence the charts but that would be ridiculous. Any manipulation is going to make it harder for us, not easier.

Sales charts are at least as open to manipulation as any other chart. e.g. A powerful church here, Hillsong, bullied their way into having their sales counted in the official ARIA charts a while ago and now you get these Jesus freak artists nobody outside the church has ever seen or heard of making the Top 10, because the Hillsong flock are told to go out and buy the CDs for Jesus. Or one year when the Australian Idol winner's first single was released and the record company flooded all the record stores with it, to make it no. 1, because the charts go off shipments to retailers, not actual sales receipts. Three months later, 90% of that stock had been returned. Casey Donovan had got her no. 1 but it was completely meaningless.

Last century radio decided who would be in the charts and there was so much corruption going on that nobody outside the mainstream record companies had any hope of getting airplay, and therefore no chance of charting. Punk changed that for a while but it only lasted a few years before normal service was resumed.

Do we manipulate the situation to our advantage? Absolutely. We release mid-year, where most of the big releases happen towards Xmas, at the back-end of the year. So there is less competition when we release our albums, which improves our chances of charting. For our label, that's just good business and we're happy to go along with it, as they are the ones spending money on promotion and, so far, it's worked well enough.

At the end of the day, I'd rather have the endorsement of 350 industry people than sell lots of music to morons. Obviously, the ideal would be to be able to do both but we don't live in a world where what NOVAkILL does would ever be popular. That's not what it's for. If you want to sell lots of records, you call yourself Fluffy Bunnies and you do vacuous, inoffensive pop music (which, ironically, I mostly find offensive in the extreme).

Frankly, it's almost a miracle that Swift was in the same charts because big names tend to be segregated against in such alternative niche thingies.

I am not a Swift fan, but at least her music is not noise afaik She makes Country music, right? Heard her name occasionally, but I don't know any song of hers.

Whenever I hear a distorted guitar, I am gone.

[vurt]

Whenever I hear a distorted guitar, I am gone.

then the chances of you appreciating novakill or retro aktiv is probably 0.
this doesnt make either of them "shit" though.
im not a fan of the genre, but that which i do know such as kmfdm and nitzer ebb, id say bones stuff stands well with the sound of those. its supposed to be nasty and in your face, which it is. hard to sing ballads about dystopian futures and such

its not right for you to say such a thing, then later admit you dont even like a distorted guitar. as bones said, you, in this case, dont have the knowledge to discuss the quality of his music.
of course, you can dislike it, you can even think wow id never listen to this shit!!!
even say to him "its not my thing, i dont really like angry, distorted music sorry" and thats fine too

and i think country, is quite alternative to germans
and yup, its shocking she was on the same chart as bones, which is why you will never forget it now, i know i cant

[BBFG#]

Swift is Pop for teenage angst princesses.
Her music is droll at best, but I have a great respect for her business acumen and apparent financial genius. So what musical tools are used are secondary and actually unimportant. (Except maybe in advertising/marketing terms?)

[Sawtooth Fairy]

Whenever I hear a distorted guitar, I am gone.

then the chances of you appreciating novakill or retro aktiv is probably 0.
this doesnt make either of them "shit" though.
im not a fan of the genre, but that which i do know such as kmfdm and nitzer ebb, id say bones stuff stands well with the sound of those. its supposed to be nasty and in your face, which it is. hard to sing ballads about dystopian futures and such

its not right for you to say such a thing, then later admit you dont even like a distorted guitar. as bones said, you, in this case, dont have the knowledge to discuss the quality of his music.
of course, you can dislike it, you can even think wow id never listen to this shit!!!
even say to him "its not my thing, i dont really like angry, distorted music sorry" and thats fine too

and i think country, is quite alternative to germans
and yup, its shocking she was on the same chart as bones, which is why you will never forget it now, i know i cant

I don't think I said "shit". I said "noise" if I remember correctly.
The quality of music IS the appeal of music. Music that doesn't appeal to me, has no quality in my view. Music is not a purpose in itself, after all. That's the reason why I also don't like most classical music, it is artificial and constructed, but doesn't touch me at all.

[revvy]

Swift’s work with Bon Iver is excellent.

Love distorted guitar.

Love noise.

Potentially love music I can hear rather then theoretical musings of forum critics.

[BONES]

Whenever I hear a distorted guitar, I am gone.

I'm the same when it comes to acoustic guitars or electric pianos. Their sound makes my skin crawl.

then the chances of you appreciating novakill or retro aktiv is probably 0.

Wait on! RetroAktiv is covers of Top 40 music from the 80s, I imagine it would have fairly broad appeal (as long as I don't show my face in any of the promotional material, of course). I've even done Tainted Love, FFS! We'll probably never know, though, as I've mostly lost interest in it now. It was a great way to learn Studio One, though.

[Jac459]

Swift is Pop for teenage angst princesses.
Her music is droll at best, but I have a great respect for her business acumen and apparent financial genius. So what musical tools are used are secondary and actually unimportant. (Except maybe in advertising/marketing terms?)

That's a bit harsh but interesting way of seeing it .

[rod_zero]

Max Martin does all pop anyway, he alone has defined and made pop for the last 28 years, in fact we should rename Pop as "music by max martin" genre.

[Jac459]

Max Martin does all pop anyway, he alone has defined and made pop for the last 28 years, in fact we should rename Pop as "music by max martin" genre.

He is the fifth Beatles....

[Shabdahbriah]

Music is not a purpose in itself, after all.

Yeeeah... it's really a bummer that music can't transport anyone to a different 'time', or 'space', or 'sphere' of inspiration beyond their perceived boundaries, or self-imposed limitations. That it can't evoke a 'memory', or prompt, or compel anyone to smile, or cry, feel Joy, or peace, or to dance. What a pity.

[revvy]

Some music is constructed. Artificially.

[Samuel Wood]

This lens look like a fake chinese product which look fancy but doesn't work

Those days are long gone.
Also, there is a certain scrap rate with any manufacturing. China simply makes so much stuff that the absolute amount of scrap seems relatively big, but the rate is no worse than with Western production.

YEs but they make some useless thing which looks good while purchasing but it's useless.

[BONES]

The quality of music IS the appeal of music. Music that doesn't appeal to me, has no quality in my view.

If that's true, your appreciation of music is incredibly shallow. There are so many aspects of a finished song to be assessed and appreciated that whether or not it appeals to you has no bearing on its worth as a piece of art (or commercial product). If you can't appreciate something simply for what it is, there is something wrong with you and to put yourself at the centre of everything like that is so childish, so immature, that it makes me wonder if you have to ask your mum before you're allowed to use the computer.

Music is not a purpose in itself, after all.

Of course it is. If you don't get any pleasure simply from possessing music then, again, your appreciation of the artform is disgustingly shallow.

[CrystalWizard]

The quality of music IS the appeal of music. Music that doesn't appeal to me, has no quality in my view.

Music is not a purpose in itself, after all.

WOW! for you perhaps, not me.