Synth overload?
- KVRian
- 783 posts since 16 Jun, 2022
for real this thread is turned into a huge cricle jerkmartiu wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 6:25 pm Back to the topic of synth overload guys OR i am bringing out the BAN hammer soon.
I make electronic music - DAW of choice : Live 12 
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Sawtooth Fairy Sawtooth Fairy https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=590202
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- 103 posts since 22 Nov, 2022
Are you talking to me? I didn't say anything like that, so don't put words into my mouth.Shabdahbriah wrote: Mon May 15, 2023 1:36 pmYeeeah... it's really a bummer that music can't transport anyone to a different 'time', or 'space', or 'sphere' of inspiration beyond their perceived boundaries, or self-imposed limitations. That it can't evoke a 'memory', or prompt, or compel anyone to smile, or cry, feel Joy, or peace, or to dance. What a pity.
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Sawtooth Fairy Sawtooth Fairy https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=590202
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- 103 posts since 22 Nov, 2022
I don't agree. If a song sounds ugly to me, it has no worth to me, and it certainly is no piece of art in my view.BONES wrote: Tue May 16, 2023 7:28 amIf that's true, your appreciation of music is incredibly shallow. There are so many aspects of a finished song to be assessed and appreciated that whether or not it appeals to you has no bearing on its worth as a piece of art (or commercial product). If you can't appreciate something simply for what it is, there is something wrong with you and to put yourself at the centre of everything like that is so childish, so immature, that it makes me wonder if you have to ask your mum before you're allowed to use the computer.Sawtooth Fairy wrote: Sun May 14, 2023 9:06 pmThe quality of music IS the appeal of music. Music that doesn't appeal to me, has no quality in my view.Of course it is. If you don't get any pleasure simply from possessing music then, again, your appreciation of the artform is disgustingly shallow.Music is not a purpose in itself, after all.
It's like with food. If I hate pizza, it has no worth to me. And I can't confirm that it is great food or whatever others claim. I cannot appreciate anything about pizza if I don't like the way it tastes.
To the contrary, to me people are shallow that like any music. I am very specific in terms of genres, and even within those few genres any song must have something special, else it is a waste of time.
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- KVRian
- 798 posts since 17 Nov, 2015 from Yuma
i think, the more synths one has the less he knows any of em. one exception of my rule i consider are very experienced synthionados who once learnt from one synth or two or three, mostly hardware i guess. i myself am one of the too many synths noobs who is just touching the surface of all the synths. not something im very proud of or lucky about. just a lazy preset editor with exceptionally making own presets from scratch. its a shame ^^Loophole01 wrote: Sun Apr 23, 2023 7:22 pm Hi everyone,
Is it generally advised to work with 1 or few synth instruments or is the general sentiment to have as many synths as possible to be able to produce the broadest amount of sounds etc?
Curious on others' experience!
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- GRRRRRRR!
- 17773 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere you're not!
What do you need to know? They all work pretty much the same, there's no secret to any of it. The wavetable oscillator in Pigments is much the same as it is in Serum or DUNE or Spire or any other synth with a wavetable oscillator. There may be a few quirks but it's no harder to adapt to than it is to get out of your car and drive someone else's. The principles are the same, you just have to learn where the controls are, which takes no time at all.
The last big synth purchase I made was Spire and it took me literally minutes to start working it into a couple of songs I was working on at the time. After I'd spent a couple of hours with it, I put together a whole song using just Spire. There was no learning curve, beyond finding out where everything was on the interface, which takes no time at all.
I don't like Thai food but that doesn't stop me eating it if that's where my friends want to have dinner. I can always find something on the menu to enjoy, even though I would never choose to eat Thai myself. And I mean never.
Anything beyond broad categories like Rock, Country, Dance or Pop does more harm than good in my eyes. e.g. I can safely say I don't like Reggae but there are several rock bands I absolutely love that have a very strong Reggae influence in their music. It's the blending of genres, the will to move beyond strict genre definitions, that makes them stand out from the crowd and gives them an edge.
The last big synth purchase I made was Spire and it took me literally minutes to start working it into a couple of songs I was working on at the time. After I'd spent a couple of hours with it, I put together a whole song using just Spire. There was no learning curve, beyond finding out where everything was on the interface, which takes no time at all.
Of course, it's the same for me, but that doesn't preclude me from being impressed by a great arrangement, a clever hook, excellent production values, a terrific vocal performance or any of a dozen other aspects of a song that might be done well or just be a bit interesting.
Pizza is a great example because pizza can be pretty much anything. You can have any of half-a-dozen different bases, tomato sauce or BBQ sauce or white sauce and any toppings you can think of. The only consistent ingredient is cheese and you can have as much or as little of that as you like. If you can't find a pizza you're happy to eat, it's because you aren't trying.It's like with food. If I hate pizza, it has no worth to me.
I don't like Thai food but that doesn't stop me eating it if that's where my friends want to have dinner. I can always find something on the menu to enjoy, even though I would never choose to eat Thai myself. And I mean never.
Again, I am the same but that still doesn't stop me appreciating lots of aspects of any music at all, just as the fact I like a particular song doesn't stop me from being critical of poor production or some aspect of the arrangement that doesn't work as well as it could. And if you can do one, you can do the other.To the contrary, to me people are shallow that like any music.
I hate genres, they make it so much harder to find good music. Within dance music they are just a joke that pretty much makes it impossible to take any EDM seriously.I am very specific in terms of genres, and even within those few genres any song must have something special, else it is a waste of time.
Anything beyond broad categories like Rock, Country, Dance or Pop does more harm than good in my eyes. e.g. I can safely say I don't like Reggae but there are several rock bands I absolutely love that have a very strong Reggae influence in their music. It's the blending of genres, the will to move beyond strict genre definitions, that makes them stand out from the crowd and gives them an edge.
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Invader 2, Flow Motion, Olga, TRK 01, Thorn, Spire, VG Iron
- addled muppet weed
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- KVRAF
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- KVRAF
- 7116 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
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- KVRAF
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- KVRAF
- 9521 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
It's not bad when sauteed in butter, and dipped in maple syrup. Crunchy on the outside,
creamy on the inside, when prepared skillfully. A bit like banjo music in that regard.
- KVRAF
- 7116 posts since 19 Apr, 2002 from Utah
glokraw wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 9:17 amIt's not bad when sauteed in butter, and dipped in maple syrup. Crunchy on the outside,
creamy on the inside, when prepared skillfully. A bit like banjo music in that regard.
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(Also: I'm Accused of lying about Linux—it boots, runs my pro audio workflow, stays stable, updates--though yearly dismissed as “niche”. Yet I'm the deluded one.)
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