not to spend your cash for you, but wogglebug is a great little tool!elxsound wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 6:38 pm Still eyeing a Wogglebug for one of the pods. Prices on used Tempi and Wogglebug are pretty low right now.
Make Noise - New Spectraphon Module
- addled muppet weed
- 111336 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
- KVRAF
- 13143 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
Wogglebug is still one of my favorite modules ever. I want to build one in Frac or in 4U with banana jacks so I can use it with Serge and Buchla.
- KVRAF
- 14010 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
It was completely incomprehensible to me, until I found these:elxsound wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 6:38 pm Still eyeing a Wogglebug for one of the pods. Prices on used Tempi and Wogglebug are pretty low right now.
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
- addled muppet weed
- 111336 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
yeah, i needed some videos to get anything where i knew wtf i was doing 
before that, i was basically using it to clock rene
before that, i was basically using it to clock rene
- KVRAF
- 8088 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
I tried Wogglebug twice and gave up on it both times. Not because it was too confusing (after the first few hours with a scope anyway!) but I just don't have that much need for random signals I guess, and Marbles fits the bill for me because of how it imposes control over the randomness.
Probably my favorite thing I did with it was messing with envelopes, but I just don't need to do that very much, and when I learned about running envelopes through resonant filters that kind of put the nail in the coffin.
I did kind of enjoy using it with Clep Diaz too, but then, everything is better with a little Clep Diaz.
Probably my favorite thing I did with it was messing with envelopes, but I just don't need to do that very much, and when I learned about running envelopes through resonant filters that kind of put the nail in the coffin.
I did kind of enjoy using it with Clep Diaz too, but then, everything is better with a little Clep Diaz.
- KVRAF
- 14010 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
Yeah. Even after kind of sorting it out, I got rid of Wogglebug very early into my journey, as I prefer a degree of 'control' or I think it's sometimes referred to as "structured" randomness, which are imposed as semi-predictable, if not known variables within "probability" frameworks/functions.foosnark wrote: Thu May 18, 2023 9:41 pm I tried Wogglebug twice and gave up on it both times. Not because it was too confusing (after the first few hours with a scope anyway!) but I just don't have that much need for random signals I guess, and Marbles fits the bill for me because of how it imposes control over the randomness.
I have a far greater use for that and various logic modules, and clock dividers/multipliers, as it gives me something to play 'with' and off of... like 'point/counter-point', for lack of a better term. I like playing that moves in ebbs-and-flows, which evolve in a 'call-and-response' fashion.
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I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
- KVRAF
- 13143 posts since 7 May, 2006 from Southern California
I think there are probably much better options these days but the Wogglebug just clicks for me. I feel the same way about the Wiard Noise Ring. There are lots of other shift register based modulation sources but I always go back to the Noise Ring.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11367 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
I have a µO_c with Hemispheres loaded, coming (hopefully soon) that I plan on using for a while first.
Unless there’s a stupid price on Wogglebug, this might be a later in the year purchase.
I like the burst, clock mode and ring modulation which when following the MN videos sounds different than other ring mod… I think in one of the videos Walker mentioned that part was digital, but the above videos mentions it being analog, unless that’s just the S&H… I honestly don’t know, but I swear walker mentioned it. I’ll have to find the video.
Unless there’s a stupid price on Wogglebug, this might be a later in the year purchase.
I like the burst, clock mode and ring modulation which when following the MN videos sounds different than other ring mod… I think in one of the videos Walker mentioned that part was digital, but the above videos mentions it being analog, unless that’s just the S&H… I honestly don’t know, but I swear walker mentioned it. I’ll have to find the video.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 11367 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Shabdahbriah wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 7:32 pmYes! Just stunningly cool.elxsound wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 7:31 pmThe CL one?Shabdahbriah wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 6:34 pm OMG! ... That was amazing!!! The man is sooo good at what he does. I was grinninglikeanidiot the whole time.![]()
It does e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g I imagined, anticipated, hope for, and then some! The 'envelope follower' output is such a bonus!![]()
Still dealing with work stuff but will check out tonight.... {well, for my tastes}
Finally saw the 2nd half…. DAMN!
I need to go back. I might not be fully awake, or it covered lots more options than anticipated. Either way, I’m happy to watch again.
This was well done.
- addled muppet weed
- 111336 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
yup, im going to wait till i have it, to repeat any of them, will make more sense once im hands on.elxsound wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 3:02 pmShabdahbriah wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 7:32 pmYes! Just stunningly cool.elxsound wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 7:31 pmThe CL one?Shabdahbriah wrote: Wed May 17, 2023 6:34 pm OMG! ... That was amazing!!! The man is sooo good at what he does. I was grinninglikeanidiot the whole time.![]()
It does e.v.e.r.y.t.h.i.n.g I imagined, anticipated, hope for, and then some! The 'envelope follower' output is such a bonus!![]()
Still dealing with work stuff but will check out tonight.... {well, for my tastes}
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Finally saw the 2nd half…. DAMN!
I need to go back. I might not be fully awake, or it covered lots more options than anticipated. Either way, I’m happy to watch again.
This was well done.
- KVRAF
- 14010 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
Different you say?elxsound wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 1:59 pm [...] and ring modulation which when following the MN videos sounds different than other ring mod…
try to find one of these... {only 50 were made}:
https://pittsburghmodular.com/dual-ring
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I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
- KVRAF
- 14010 posts since 19 Jun, 2008 from Seattle
A little more... from SonicState:
I'm not a musician, but I've designed sounds that others use to make music. http://soundcloud.com/obsidiananvil
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- KVRAF
- 2418 posts since 9 Nov, 2016
Really like the character and range of tones here.
It has been mentioned in the CL video, but i d be interested to see if you input samples from BIA what this module can do with it.
It has been mentioned in the CL video, but i d be interested to see if you input samples from BIA what this module can do with it.
- KVRAF
- 8088 posts since 9 Jan, 2003 from Saint Louis MO
Eh, that video kind of gave the impression that he hasn't had enough time with the module to feel comfortable with it yet and is kind of flailing around. Doesn't surprise me though, Sonic State often seems to try to get videos out very quickly (like how they manage to post several SuperBooth videos while SuperBooth is actually happening... maybe it's a big team so the people doing interviews get to sleep and someone else is doing editing, though).
- KVRAF
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- 11367 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
That’s what I took away too. I didn’t finish the video, but doesn’t look like they understand it well enough to present on spectraphon.foosnark wrote: Fri May 19, 2023 5:49 pmEh, that video kind of gave the impression that he hasn't had enough time with the module to feel comfortable with it yet and is kind of flailing around. Doesn't surprise me though, Sonic State often seems to try to get videos out very quickly (like how they manage to post several SuperBooth videos while SuperBooth is actually happening... maybe it's a big team so the people doing interviews get to sleep and someone else is doing editing, though).
