Waveform 12.5 summary

[UnionS8]

Well done. We've been waiting long, impatiently and anxiously for any news. Then Tracktion announced version 12.5. Again, we waited long and anxiously. And after a long year we have this:

• A redesigned video workflow. Cool stuff, but I've only needed it twice so far in all the time I've been using Waveform.

• DJ Tools, which I will never use.

• Stem separathion. When they announced this, I cheered. I would have thought it wouldn't work out of the box.

So what did I actually get? New fancy gradients around the loop. Oh, great!
I'm so glad I didn't have to pay a dime for 12.5!

And it really pains me to watch Tracktion kill my favorite DAW I've ever worked with. And that at least in the immediate aftermath of a new release, someone would peek into the only forum that officially exists?

[Michl71]

Oh Yes, something went wrong in the Development. Just a few Details that I've noticed:

Settings Tab Appearance-Settings
- nothing happens when I click the Language-Wiki
- the Checkmarks on any of the Options are not being saved
- I'm not able to change the font or UI-Size

File-Paths:
- Show Settings Folder >>> nothing happens
- change temporary folder >>> nothing happens

Plugins:
- LV2 Support doesn't work

and these are just a few things.

What's going on in the Management Floor of Tracktion? Are the "old" Developers still on Board?

(Waveform on MacOS 10.15 Catalina on iMac)

[UnionS8]

The thing is, I'm tired of working in Waveform. Because I'm not sure they're gonna shut it all down. And why invest valuable time in something that has no future?

[JamminFool]

unfortunately, the attention to detail and follow-through are laughable. not what you should expect from a professional piece of software.

and yes, the lack of attention to the forum and customers is very telling. it no longer feels like anyone over there actually cares.

[Michl71]

unfortunately, the attention to detail and follow-through are laughable. not what you should expect from a professional piece of software.

and yes, the lack of attention to the forum and customers is very telling. it no longer feels like anyone over there actually cares.

Menues don't work! Even the simplest things no longer work after the Update.
Something is going terribly wrong here.

[Kott]

Settings Tab Appearance-Settings
- nothing happens when I click the Language-Wiki
- the Checkmarks on any of the Options are not being saved
- I'm not able to change the font or UI-Size

File-Paths:
- Show Settings Folder >>> nothing happens
- change temporary folder >>> nothing happens

Looks like it cannot write in the settings file, perhaps you have wrong permission on WF dir.

Plugins:
- LV2 Support doesn't work

What LV2 have you tried?
I'm on Linux and what I expected is working.

[pough]

Menues don't work!

I haven't come across any menus that don't work. Can you be specific so the rest of us can confirm?

[pough]

And it really pains me to watch Tracktion kill my favorite DAW I've ever worked with.

It's being killed by being a free update that doesn't include anything that specifically benefits you?

I'm not very excited about the major new features, but I'm fine with them not being for me. The one update I quite like that I haven't seen mentioned anywhere is the cursor change when mousing over those thin blue lines to change values. I missed the lines more often than I hit them, so this visual feedback is very welcome. No more changing Note-off Velocity when trying to change Velocity for MIDI notes.

[Michl71]

Menues don't work!

I haven't come across any menus that don't work. Can you be specific so the rest of us can confirm?

I figured out it's a Problem with translation files. When I switch back to English it works. In my Case the German Language file causes this Problem.

[Michl71]

Now, after 12.5.4 Update every time I click on a Audiofile in the Browser, no matter what Format, Waveform crashes to Desktop.

(Waveform 12.5.4 / MacOS 10.15)

[UnionS8]

And it really pains me to watch Tracktion kill my favorite DAW I've ever worked with.

It's being killed by being a free update that doesn't include anything that specifically benefits you?

Not at all! I totally understand that the creators can't hit everyone's taste. Plus, I wrote that the new features are fine. Working with video needed an upgrade, and I think Tracktion have done even more than anyone expected in this regard.
But I still maintain that Tracktion is killing Waveform. When was the last time you interacted with someone from the company in this forum? It's crawling with posts with feature requests, bug reports and no one bothers to respond to them. The way we found out about version 12.5 was that a user posted it here, there hasn't been any mention of another minor update since then.
You yourself mention a new feature that you came across by accident. How many of those are there?
Some feature requests appear here repeatedly. And they are not complex things, but basic features that Waveform should have had for years.
This is killing Waveform from my point of view...

Then I just added that of the three major new features, one I don't use at all, one I use sporadically, and the third, which I would gladly pay for, doesn't work.

[Michl71]

Settings Tab Appearance-Settings
- nothing happens when I click the Language-Wiki
- the Checkmarks on any of the Options are not being saved
- I'm not able to change the font or UI-Size

File-Paths:
- Show Settings Folder >>> nothing happens
- change temporary folder >>> nothing happens

Looks like it cannot write in the settings file, perhaps you have wrong permission on WF dir.

Plugins:
- LV2 Support doesn't work

What LV2 have you tried?
I'm on Linux and what I expected is working.

Thewavewarden Odin 2 is available as LV2 Plugin. Plugin found by Waveform but doesn‘t work. It‘s marked with yellow Triangle

[carlosigls]

Now, after 12.5.4 Update every time I click on a Audiofile in the Browser, no matter what Format, Waveform crashes to Desktop.

(Waveform 12.5.4 / MacOS 10.15)

I'm starting to get tired of these failures. The same thing happens to me in my case on Windows. Is a continuous Beta version.

[jabe]

Perhaps the public beta, used in versions 9-11, should be reconsidered.

[ThomasCa]

Same with me!
Installed 12.5.4 Update every time I click on a Audio file in the Browser, no matter what Format, Waveform crashes to Desktop with audio engine error, then the program restarts.
This is with Linux Mint as the OS...
With the same laptop with Win 10 pro it works as expected.
But, on the Win 10 Pro the "Stem separation" Does not work at all.
Very strange and sucks paying for an upgrade that isn't consistent.
(Waveform 12.5.4 / Linux Mint 21.1)