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Examigan
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7398 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Mon May 29, 2023 2:58 pm

oops! I see now I missed it when they were updated. :dog:
Jon at Roland wrote: Wed Apr 26, 2023 3:41 pm Hi everyone! My name is Jon and I work for Roland Cloud. I'm seeing a lot of people asking what has changed with v2 of the Jupiter-4, Jupiter-8 and JUNO-106 so I thought I'd share some resources on the new feautres.

All three instruments are now AU/VST/AAX fully Silicon Native. We also added a Circuit Mod knob and new sound banks. We made changes to the interface of each instrument, updated the graphics and made some adjustments to workflow including a new searchable browser that allows you to rate all your favorite patches. Feel free to reach out if you have any questions!

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ChamomileShark
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2692 posts since 12 May, 2004 from Oxford, UK

Post Wed May 31, 2023 10:28 am

Some questions.

Is there anything that the JV 1080 plugin can do that the XV 5080 can't? I think the XV 5080 has the JV 1080 waveforms plus alot more?

Re Play4life..I know that in the year you can choose an instrument as a lifetime key and change it with the year. But I thought I saw somewhere that as long as you have paid membership you can change that lifetime key whenever you like? That seems a bit odd but nice if it is true.

Finally at some point I'm going to need to downgrade from Pro to Core. I've seen on the Cloud FAQs that you downgrade by basically cancelling you current subscription and you then get a survey asking why you are leaving..surely there is a way of simply switching your membership level rather than cancelling one and then starting another?

Finally at the end of the billing cycle, either the month or the year does Roland simply take another month or year's payment if you've forgotten to cancel?
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Examigan
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7398 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Wed May 31, 2023 12:45 pm

ChamomileShark wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 10:28 am Is there anything that the JV 1080 plugin can do that the XV 5080 can't? I think the XV 5080 has the JV 1080 waveforms plus alot more?
There is discussion about that on this page:

viewtopic.php?t=475542&start=465

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ChamomileShark
KVRAF
2692 posts since 12 May, 2004 from Oxford, UK

Post Wed May 31, 2023 2:11 pm

thanks but that seems to be more a comparison of the JV 1080 plugin and the XV 5080 hardware? I didn't think that the XV 5080 plugin came out until 2019?
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Examigan
KVRAF
7398 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Wed May 31, 2023 3:02 pm

I forgot I recently asked the Roland Cloud people about the waveforms and they mentioned this:

"The XV-5080 contains the waveforms of the JV-1080 and JV-2080.
The JV-1080 is an exact recreation of the original JV-1080 with more presets and some minor functionality changes."

I just checked, and the XV-5080 and JV-1080 plugins have the same number of waveforms: 1,083

Examigan
KVRAF
7398 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Wed May 31, 2023 3:57 pm

On this page is some additional info:

viewtopic.php?t=475542&start=3090

Jon at Roland
KVRist
50 posts since 5 Apr, 2023

Post Wed May 31, 2023 4:10 pm

ChamomileShark wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 10:28 am Some questions.

Is there anything that the JV 1080 plugin can do that the XV 5080 can't? I think the XV 5080 has the JV 1080 waveforms plus alot more?

Re Play4life..I know that in the year you can choose an instrument as a lifetime key and change it with the year. But I thought I saw somewhere that as long as you have paid membership you can change that lifetime key whenever you like? That seems a bit odd but nice if it is true.

Finally at some point I'm going to need to downgrade from Pro to Core. I've seen on the Cloud FAQs that you downgrade by basically cancelling you current subscription and you then get a survey asking why you are leaving..surely there is a way of simply switching your membership level rather than cancelling one and then starting another?

Finally at the end of the billing cycle, either the month or the year does Roland simply take another month or year's payment if you've forgotten to cancel?
Hey ChamomileShark, Jon from Roland Cloud here. Great questions! Play 4 Life has not yet been announced so, be on the lookout for that! How Play 4 Life has worked in the past is that in order to qualify for Play 4 Life you had to sign up for either an annual Pro membership, where you are rewarded one Lifetime Key, or an annual Ultimate Membership, where you are rewarded two. During the year, you are able to swap out your rewarded instruments until the year is up in which case they become Lifetime Keys and can not be changed. For this reason we recommend signing up for an ultimate membership because with an Ultimate Membership you can mess around with our whole library of instruments before you make your decision. You're able to renew Play 4 Life for up to 10 Lifetime Keys in total. Annual and monthly memberships auto-renew but with annual you will be notified when your year is up.

As for the JV-1080 vs. the XV-5080. The XV-5080 Soft synth was released a couple years after the JV-1080. The XV-5080 contains the waveforms of the JV-1080 and JV-2080 and expanded presets. The biggest difference is the meticulous recreation of the design of each unit. If you wanted the experience of owning a JV-1080 or XV-5080 then you can! It's up to your personal preference. :) :)

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planetearth
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2150 posts since 10 Jul, 2006 from Tampa

Post Wed May 31, 2023 5:10 pm

Eh...nevermind.

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ChamomileShark
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2692 posts since 12 May, 2004 from Oxford, UK

Post Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:27 am

thank you Examigan & Jon.
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Strainer
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5 posts since 6 Feb, 2022

Post Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:56 am

Strainer wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:47 am Hello!
I'm having trouble with concerto, I moved my *.rvr files to another drive (out of system drive)

Now I cant get the concerto instrument find the files when I start it in my daw.
I have followed these instructions, https://rolandus.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/a ... m-location
but the folder does not seem to "stick". When I restart the instrument, it does not have anything to choose from.

Thanks in advance!

Br,Jani
Thanks Jon from roland for taking time to check this out.
Unfortunately there is no official way to get these libraries moved to another drive.

Therefore I'm asking if anyone has been able to "knife" the code on concerto so that I could get this thing working some other way? Changing some parameters on some file etc.

Would highly appreciate any solution to this.

Br,
Guy whose C: drive is full :D

Examigan
KVRAF
7398 posts since 15 Sep, 2005 from East Coast of the USA

Post Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:19 pm

Strainer wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 1:56 am
Strainer wrote: Fri May 05, 2023 4:47 am Hello!
I'm having trouble with concerto, I moved my *.rvr files to another drive (out of system drive)

Now I cant get the concerto instrument find the files when I start it in my daw.
I have followed these instructions, https://rolandus.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/a ... m-location
but the folder does not seem to "stick". When I restart the instrument, it does not have anything to choose from.

Thanks in advance!

Br,Jani
Thanks Jon from roland for taking time to check this out.
Unfortunately there is no official way to get these libraries moved to another drive.

Therefore I'm asking if anyone has been able to "knife" the code on concerto so that I could get this thing working some other way? Changing some parameters on some file etc.

Would highly appreciate any solution to this.

Br,
Guy whose C: drive is full :D
I just installed the EP14 and selected my secondary drive during the install. I used the VST2 version and it works for me here. Unless you meant putting that on an external drive, and I have no idea how that might work.
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Chrisk-K
KVRist
344 posts since 4 Jun, 2020 from USA

Post Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:10 pm

I'm currently on my 2nd year of Play 4 Life, which will expire in three months. Are the new V 2.0 legendary instruments are available as P4L rewards (i.e., lifetime keys)?

Ex Machina
Banned
184 posts since 31 May, 2023

Post Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:27 pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE42U4MBhtA

I love the sound of my MKS-70. It's really unique in the world of analog synthesizers. I don't get any of the same vibe from the Roland Cloud Zen-core JX-8P model. It sounds like a completely different instrument to me. The Roland Cloud JX-8P doesn't sound bad at all. It just sounds like a nice virtual analog plugin.
D-550, EX-8000, Juno 60, Matrix-1000, MicroWave I Rev A, MicroWave II XT, MKS-7, MkS-20 x2, MKS-30, MKS-50, MKS-70, MKS-80 rev 4, MKS-80 rev 5, Nord Rack 2, Nord Rack 3, Pulse 1, Pulse 2, REV2, Shruthi SMR-4 MKII, Shruthi 4MP, Tetra, Virus TI2 keyboard

Shiek927
KVRian
797 posts since 14 May, 2014

Post Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:56 pm

Jon at Roland wrote: Fri May 26, 2023 10:02 am
Shiek927 wrote: Sat May 20, 2023 11:33 am Hey Roland Cloud!! it's been a minute since I've been around, but my requests have remained the same for years

The JP8000/8080
The JD-990
The V-Synth


These three digital synths are really the only thing left that I'm still looking for from the Roland family :). The JP8000 deserves to be brought back as the classic that it is. The JD990 is a crown jewel of a synth and one that I've owned in hardware before. Paired with the Vintage Synth card and it's absolutely sublime.

The V-Synth is more of a 'want' instead of a 'need', but I've owned the V1 Keyboard and the XT and it's absolutely fantastic for sound-design. It felt like I had an old-school hardware version of Omnisphere and I bet it was used in scoring during the 2000's extensively.

If you guys get around to making a plugin, my suggestions would be to choose the V-Synth XT. The reason is because the XT, more than either keyboard variant, would be absolutely perfect for a desktop user. The giant touchscreen display felt like I was operating a giant VST. These are plugins after all and not hardware! there doesn't need to be a faux keyboard on the GUI or tiny knobs like you're operating hardware. The interface might as well benefit the user and a software experience.

The XT would pair very well with a keyboard and mouse for the computer-based musician and would translate very well as a plugin, more-so than emulating the V1 keyboard or GT.

The other suggestion would be to make sure that sample-import is included. That's one of the biggest strengths of the V-Synth series after all. Running vocals through the Varisynth engine makes for some wonderful vocal effects. It would be fun to bring those back!

Thank you and have a good weekend ahead!
Hey Shiek97! The XT is great. An interesting model of the V-synth. Modeling the V-Synth after the XT would definitely solve the conundrum of how to include a D-Beam in a plug-in. :phew:
I think Spectrasonics had the same idea! The "Orb" in Omnisphere is extremely similar to the TimeTrip Pad. I think Eric Persing already left Roland by the time the V-Synth came around, but he may have been inspired :!:

D-Fusion
KVRAF
4135 posts since 13 Jul, 2004 from Earth

Post Sat Jun 03, 2023 12:45 am

Ex Machina wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 7:27 pm https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gE42U4MBhtA

I love the sound of my MKS-70. It's really unique in the world of analog synthesizers. I don't get any of the same vibe from the Roland Cloud Zen-core JX-8P model. It sounds like a completely different instrument to me. The Roland Cloud JX-8P doesn't sound bad at all. It just sounds like a nice virtual analog plugin.
I agree :)
They should have called it Roland JX and released it as a Modern JX variant.
Calling the Boutique JX-08 and the Zen JX8P is a Nostalgia Scam since it has it's own sound and is not sounding like the Instrument they Claim it is.

It does sound Good and i like it allot for what it is but it is not a JX8P Replacement.

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