12.5.5 Released

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12.5.5
released 05/31/23

- Expansions: Fixed installing newer versions of Expansion content
- Browser: Fixed a crash previewing files
- Language: Fixed changing settings with a non-English language enabled
- Language: Improved the font selection for non-English languages
- Browser: Fixed updating results when selecting tags from the tag cloud

And for those still on 12.5.3 here are the changes for 12.5.4

12.5.4
released 05/30/23

- UI: Fixed "Create a multi-out Rack for this plugin inside a submix" not creating the submix
- UI: Fixed preset selector readability in light colour schemes
- UI: Fixed chord clip tooltip
- Stem separation: Fixed installing the Stem Separation feature from the DM on Windows
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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Wow that was pretty fast . I may update from Waveform 11 soon then ... @pough how are you getting along with it now ????

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In 12.5 version some VST plugins have big blank (black) space at the top of window and bottom part of plugin UI is invisible. For example - Helm, Vital, OB-Xd, Sitala, ValhallaSupermassive and so on...

VST3 version of Vital don't have such problem.

Setup: MacOS Mojave, Waveform 12.5.5 Free.

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pogile wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:55 am In 12.5 version some VST plugins have big blank (black) space at the top of window and bottom part of plugin UI is invisible. For example - Helm, Vital, OB-Xd, Sitala, ValhallaSupermassive and so on...

VST3 version of Vital don't have such problem.

Setup: MacOS Mojave, Waveform 12.5.5 Free.
Have you tried enabling dpi awareness on those plugins (bottom of right click plugin menu), close then reopen UI of plugin often works on plugins that dont display properly.
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fedexnman wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:14 am Wow that was pretty fast . I may update from Waveform 11 soon then ... @pough how are you getting along with it now ????
I haven't really tested it enough to say. The one bug that really irked me was the broken tag cloud and that's been fixed. I'm able to do what I normally do without any troubles. The new features, for the most part, aren't likely to get used by me very often.
Surely there must be consensus by now...

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Still getting password prompt every launch on macOS Ventura 13.4 (M2). Also a crash when typing in a tag, then selecting a tag without pressing enter. Otherwise so far so good.

-Edit: Turns out the password issue was caused by Waveforms keyfile being read only for staff & everyone. Changing it to read/write fixed the issue. (File was located in ~/Library/Application Support/Tracktion/Keyfiles). Excellent support from the Tracktion team!
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operandx wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:00 am
pogile wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:55 am In 12.5 version some VST plugins have big blank (black) space at the top of window and bottom part of plugin UI is invisible. For example - Helm, Vital, OB-Xd, Sitala, ValhallaSupermassive and so on...

VST3 version of Vital don't have such problem.

Setup: MacOS Mojave, Waveform 12.5.5 Free.
Have you tried enabling dpi awareness on those plugins (bottom of right click plugin menu), close then reopen UI of plugin often works on plugins that dont display properly.
Sorry, i can not find this menu option (DPI awareness). But found that this problem is depends on Waveform UI scale (Look and Feel -> Display scale). If it's more than 100%, then blank space is at the top of plugin window, if it's less, then blank space is at the bottom. If it's 100%, then no problem.
But i can not use DAW with 100% :(

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pogile wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:31 am
operandx wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 8:00 am
pogile wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:55 am In 12.5 version some VST plugins have big blank (black) space at the top of window and bottom part of plugin UI is invisible. For example - Helm, Vital, OB-Xd, Sitala, ValhallaSupermassive and so on...

VST3 version of Vital don't have such problem.

Setup: MacOS Mojave, Waveform 12.5.5 Free.
Have you tried enabling dpi awareness on those plugins (bottom of right click plugin menu), close then reopen UI of plugin often works on plugins that dont display properly.
Sorry, i can not find this menu option (DPI awareness). But found that this problem is depends on Waveform UI scale (Look and Feel -> Display scale). If it's more than 100%, then blank space is at the top of plugin window, if it's less, then blank space is at the bottom. If it's 100%, then no problem.
But i can not use DAW with 100% :(
@Pogile the option can be accessed by right clicking the Plugin icon on filter lane for the track at RHS of WF scree, It's the lat option on the menu.
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operandx wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:48 am @Pogile the option can be accessed by right clicking the Plugin icon on filter lane for the track at RHS of WF scree, It's the lat option on the menu.
Am i right? I added plugin to the right area of track and then right click on this plugin icon...
But there is no "DPI awareness" menu option (or any related). Maybe this option is not for MacOS version of Waveform?
Sorry, english is not my native language.

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pogile wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 4:53 pm
operandx wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 10:48 am @Pogile the option can be accessed by right clicking the Plugin icon on filter lane for the track at RHS of WF scree, It's the lat option on the menu.
Am i right? I added plugin to the right area of track and then right click on this plugin icon...
But there is no "DPI awareness" menu option (or any related). Maybe this option is not for MacOS version of Waveform?
Sorry, english is not my native language.
Ah right, maybe a Windows PC only option. Sorry for the bum steer.
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pogile wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 6:55 am In 12.5 version some VST plugins have big blank (black) space at the top of window and bottom part of plugin UI is invisible. For example - Helm, Vital, OB-Xd, Sitala, ValhallaSupermassive and so on...

VST3 version of Vital don't have such problem.

Setup: MacOS Mojave, Waveform 12.5.5 Free.
I have the same issue. Since upgrading to Waveform 12.5.3/12.5.4/12.5.5, the majority of my VST2 plugins (including Tracktion's own DAW Essentials Collection, Master Mix and Micro Synth Pack) now show a black area either at the top or bottom of the plugin window (also hiding part of the plugin) if Waveform's GUI scaling is set at any percentage other than 100%.This happens on two intel Macs, one running macOS 10.15.7 and the other running macOS 13.4, but not on a PC running Windows 10. This issue did not exist in Waveform 12.1.8 or earlier.
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As a temporary workaround, the VST window can sometimes be reset to its expected state by clicking on the settings tab and clicking back onto the current project tab, or by resetting Waveform's GUI to 100% and then back to the GUI percentage that you were using.
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Overall the update is still very bad for me. (Intel mac OSX 12.6.1). Projects that load fine in Waveform 12.1.8 are unusable in the latest update due to crackles, CPU spiking and cutting out of the audio engine. I really hope they stabilise this, because it's a good DAW.

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Yes, something bad takes place with WF. And it is strange as far as 12.x before 12.5 was rather stable as, say, other Tracktion software I tried (never have any problems with F-em).

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I hope they will keep small releases with bug fixes.

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I have reported on their support system a number of bugs I've found.

Hopefully they will be focussed on addressing the bugs instead of moving onto new features and being radio silent for the next few months.

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