MeldaProduction

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Sat May 27, 2023 4:42 am

Hi Vojtech,

is it possible to add a background AGC feature?
What I mean:
The plugin calculates the AGC the whole time without using the AGC button on any mode at that time. Cause there are many plugins, especially dynamic ones, which doesn't work that great with enabled AGC button.
But if the AGC is calculated the whole time in the background you need just to push the AGC once at any time and the AGC (Output Volume) will be set at that level. Voxengo does this and it saves you from waiting the AGC calculating time ("As most Voxengo plug-ins feature an output level meter with the “out/in”
indicator (input-to-output loudness difference), adding an EQ auto-gain
compensation (or auto-gain on any other stage) is unnecessary: it is enough to click
on the “out/in” indicator to match the output loudness to the input loudness"), like it works at the moment, which always stops me from working fast.
I think the set button in mcompare works in a similar way?!
Maybe you think about it, thanks
Marek

Held · Post by **Held** » Sat May 27, 2023 6:50 am

That would be really nice.

steve2KVR · Post by **steve2KVR** » Sat May 27, 2023 1:32 pm

...indeed, would be a really nice "workflow" feature.../s~

MirkoVanHauten · Post by **MirkoVanHauten** » Sat May 27, 2023 1:57 pm

Shouldn't AGC run & update all the time anyways because it's highly input dependent? Even for plugins with "static" settings?

steve2KVR · Post by **steve2KVR** » Sat May 27, 2023 3:42 pm

...this now becomes more like "MAutoGain"...

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Mon May 29, 2023 11:10 am

I'm a bit confused - how exactly is this supposed to work if you are changing the settings??

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Mon May 29, 2023 12:11 pm

Which settings?

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:50 am

Any settings of the plugin!

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:01 am

It shouldn´t matter which setting you´re changing. All settings which change the volume should be integrated in the calculation.

MeldaProduction · Post by **MeldaProduction** » Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:10 am

But that just does NOT make any sense. The AGC calculates input loudness and output loudness and then performs an output gain to make them match. You want this to work all the time, but the plugin can NOT know if you didn't change anything, including levels in your DAW etc... so it cannot perform such a calculation if you don't give it time to measure the loudness...

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:17 am

It should measure it, just like it does it now, but without the additional five seconds when pressing the agc button, this give seconds happen in the background, so when you push agc it will set the level.

Frankie.T · Post by **Frankie.T** » Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:57 am

This idea is just a compressor, and believe me you don't want that. It will ruin all the processing for no reason.

Just tweak your settings, than click the AGC when finished, just listen with the bypass button on and off to understand what's happen. It's a very good workflow that work at the best

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:02 pm

If AGC is a compressor, than it's a compressor.
I think, I can't say what I want with my bad english, no problem.

Svama · Post by **Svama** » Fri Jun 02, 2023 12:09 pm

I will show the magic with voxengo, if I find time

Held · Post by **Held** » Fri Jun 02, 2023 4:26 pm

I think the idea is for the plugin to start the calculation immediately after a parameter changed. So if you click the Set AGC five seconds after the last parameter adjustment, it is set instantly.

If you press it three seconds after the last adjustment, it only takes two seconds instead of the full 5 until the new gain is set.

At least that's how I understand it. Maybe the Voxengo plugins have an even better solution.

MeldaProduction

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Background AGC feature