One Synth Challenge #172: Lith by Soda Devices (ZioMau Wins!)

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Taron
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2995 posts since 17 Apr, 2010 from Croatia

Post Sat Jun 03, 2023 1:28 am

] Peter:H [ wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 1:11 am
Taron wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 1:02 am
liqih wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 12:41 am This is the a comeback right? We had Lith once, fun synth.

Yep
https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/2019/osc-129-lith
That's what I thought, too! Don't know if it's the same, is it? :shrug:
Same same but different :hihi: You can check the screenshot of the synth on the #129 page and compare to the curent version. It's still Lith but an updated version.
AH, yes, well, another one I had missed, but oddly enough remember. Well, let's see if I get around to it now. Thanks, Peter! :tu:

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IV!
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607 posts since 31 Oct, 2019 from Wonderland

Post Sat Jun 03, 2023 4:20 am

Here on the Lith KVR page there are even presets from ] Peter:H [, CX-30 and Richard Semper) It seems that Lith has mostly received minor improvements on the technical side. In terms of UI, this is probably the most changing VSTi of all time! :hihi:

MadMcMan
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Post Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:58 am

tested some older versions all hate my cpu (i7-9750H) at default sample rate and quality 1/2 i get horrible hiss, at 1x it goes away.

CPU usage is crazy in this synth though. should spend more time optimising than creating a new GUI imho, something wrong with the way it works.

Bouncing tracks all the time is not fun.

If the CPU usage was managed it could be a really fun complex synth.

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NeuKatalYst
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58 posts since 10 Jan, 2018

Post Sat Jun 03, 2023 1:41 pm

liqih wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 12:41 am This is the a comeback right? We had Lith once, fun synth.

Yep
https://sites.google.com/site/kvrosc/2019/osc-129-lith
As for me, I'm a newer player, so this'll be a first for me - it looks incredible; and based on the previous iteration's final playlist, it sounds incredible too~
IV! wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 4:20 am Here on the Lith KVR page there are even presets from ] Peter:H [, CX-30 and Richard Semper) It seems that Lith has mostly received minor improvements on the technical side. In terms of UI, this is probably the most changing VSTi of all time! :hihi:
Ooh, I'm gonna need to check those out. 🤔
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liqih
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Post Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:47 pm

MadMcMan wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 11:58 am tested some older versions all hate my cpu (i7-9750H) at default sample rate and quality 1/2 i get horrible hiss, at 1x it goes away.

CPU usage is crazy in this synth though. should spend more time optimising than creating a new GUI imho, something wrong with the way it works.

Bouncing tracks all the time is not fun.

If the CPU usage was managed it could be a really fun complex synth.
Yeah it's a CPU eater, for what it does. As we see the developer went for customizable samplerates,
each for realtime and rendering, still the main difference is between 1/2 x and 1 x.
Well, one more feature for the challenge, ha ha...
http://nusofting.com
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ZioMau
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58 posts since 11 Nov, 2012

Post Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:57 am

Hi ! :) :) :)
I was thinking of a usual VA synth, one of a thousand but when i opened it and tried some sounds...warm, inspiring, good modulation routing and shapes, easy to use. I found it even light on my old cpu and stable in Reaper that loads the project (with about 23 instances of Lith) in less time than ever in osc. Also used or tweaked some presets from Richard Semper and Peter H (thank you guys!) coming from OSC#129 and, in two days (actually nights)... i completed the song for this round! Cool! :tu:

doctorbob
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Post Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:18 am

liqih wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:47 pm Yeah it's a CPU eater, for what it does. As we see the developer went for customizable samplerates,
each for realtime and rendering, still the main difference is between 1/2 x and 1 x.
Well, one more feature for the challenge, ha ha...
So ... when you render, e.g. in Reaper, how does the plugin use the "render samplerate" vs the other rate. Does it actually make any difference to the overall sound once all embedded in a mix ... I am happy with the 1x for both, and don't get glitches or cpu problmes.

But then 73yr old ears can't hear much anyways ... :D

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liqih
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Post Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:24 am

doctorbob wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:18 am
liqih wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 5:47 pm Yeah it's a CPU eater, for what it does. As we see the developer went for customizable samplerates,
each for realtime and rendering, still the main difference is between 1/2 x and 1 x.
Well, one more feature for the challenge, ha ha...
So ... when you render, e.g. in Reaper, how does the plugin use the "render samplerate" vs the other rate. Does it actually make any difference to the overall sound once all embedded in a mix ... I am happy with the 1x for both, and don't get glitches or cpu problmes.

But then 73yr old ears can't hear much anyways ... :D

dB
I would keep the same multiplier for real time and rendering so you will not have surprises,
but if the exported mixdown is too noisy you can try 2 x or 4 x oversample just in rendering
http://nusofting.com
plugins: Sinnah Sinmad Echobis and more

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cdbaksu
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Post Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:21 am

Hey finally a synth I can run on my Mac :D

How is everybody? It's been a while, hopefully I can make something for this month. Good luck everyone!

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] Peter:H [
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Post Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:25 am

liqih wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:24 am [...]

I would keep the same multiplier for real time and rendering so you will not have surprises,
but if the exported mixdown is too noisy you can try 2 x or 4 x oversample just in rendering
Yes, this. Some patches sound different with higher settings. They get more top end, which might gives them more presence in the mix, though not needed/intended.
I have even used the multiplyer switched to 1/4 as a parameter for sound design. if you like to perfect the "imperfection" in sounds ...dare to switch to 1/4.

doctorbob
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Post Sun Jun 04, 2023 7:48 am

Thanks for the info folks. I did notice some BIG changes in a sound when you change the over sampling. Yes, Peter, just another part of sound design eh?

Getting rid of clicks on env attack and release can be a pain though ... take care there ...

dB

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] Peter:H [
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Post Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:03 am

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] Peter:H [
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Post Sun Jun 04, 2023 10:24 am

ZioMau wrote: Sun Jun 04, 2023 1:57 am [...] Also used or tweaked some presets from Richard Semper and Peter H (thank you guys!) coming from OSC#129 and, in two days (actually nights)... i completed the song for this round! Cool! :tu:
First time sbdy used some of my patches ... me feels honoured. Thanks for the credits, ZioMau! Looking forward to listening to your track and may be spot a patch or two :-)

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Yadrichik_Chaya
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Post Sun Jun 04, 2023 11:05 am

Edit: Lith is still doing the vinyl crackle tape hiss emulation, but to a lesser degree… 8)

LITHUANIAN SAMBA FESTIVAL 1977

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# of Lith instances: 63
DAW: Cubase 12
DAW FX: Steinberg Compressor, PingPong Delay, Autopan
FREE FX: Toneboosters Reverb, ValhallaSupermassive & TDR Kotelnikov

https://soundcloud.com/yadrichik-chaya/ ... a-festival

Edit June 24: Changes made to the drums/percussion + new outro
Last edited by Yadrichik_Chaya on Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:55 am, edited 2 times in total.
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TheNeverScene
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Post Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:47 pm

@peterH, try writing a different song. Yours is usually a good song that I always love, score high and comment on, but it's the same song over, and over, and over again. It's like "insert new synth into Bitwig template", but it's a good template!
Just a touch of EQ and a tickle of compression

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