Thanks for the note.audiojunkie wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 12:04 pmI'm not the person you originally addressed this to, but I noticed that you joined KVR back in 2006. Have you actively participated here all of these years? One who has would automatically know the 20 years of back history and various companies that have screwed people over. It's happened time and time again. Go back and do some KVR forum searches.dlandis wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 11:11 amNo, it's not difficult to understand, but your personal justification for your position seems different than the reasons of some posting here, which include trying to preserve the plausibility of a possible eventual decision to forgo the internet entirely and some concept of a breach of rights. Your position is rooted largely in the very understandable desire to maintain your creations the way you originally executed them. I would suggest that Atlatnesiti is addressing the comments of some of the other posters and probably not your concerns, per se.machinesworking wrote: ↑Thu Jun 08, 2023 10:41 amI’ve never had a forum go under and render my songs with it useless because I was not in a position to save eternal copies. I’ve had that happen with plug ins, so personally permanent licenses are preferred, it’s not that difficult of a concept to understand.
I ask with all due honesty, however: is this a Mac experience (and I am not trying to open a Mac vs. PC argument, I'm just wondering)? I'm on a Windows machine and I can't remember having to retool any of my compositions due to a change of licensing, a company going under, falling into an OS-change chasm, or any issue similar to this. Which company (or companies) hung you up? Did you entirely forgo their products at that point, gradually wean yourself away from their offerings, or take another route entirely? I would find a short account of your experience(s) and the manner in which you resolved it (them) to be helpful, if you would be so kind.
EDIT: And as for me personally, I've solved most of the problems by moving to Linux.
I'm specifically asking machineworking about his experience and addressed my note to him because he related an experience that I have not had. I've no question that some companies have over the years acted without integrity: that is a "given" and I have no need to rehash the vitriol that was expended in those clashes. I'm not attempting to defend these companies, but I am hoping to learn from machineworking's experience(s) in order to perhaps avert a similar situation of my own in the future. Please note: he mentioned having to rework his creations due to (what is assumed) to be business practices of one or more companies. This is specifically the situation I am addressing, so doing "some KVR forum searches," as you put it, would seem to be overkill. I am not at all interested in all bad business practices in posing this question, but only those that resulted in a need to engage in an attempt to recreate one's previous creative efforts.
FWIW, I'm not sure what bearing my level of participation on KVR has on what I've asked machineworking, but I've have checked in fairly regularly over the years, often not posting, but keeping up with the news to the extent that is appropriate for my level of activity in other areas of my life. I have, in fact, noted a relatively small number (compared to my perception of the frequency of what is litigated in the nonmusical sector) of complaints here regarding "questionable" business practices. Some of these strike me as perhaps having enough merit to hold up in court proceedings, but then, I am not a lawyer. Of course, one hardly has to survey what is presented on KVR to understand that music/entertainment-oriented merchandizers do not always exhibit the correct level of fealty to established ethical, moral, or legal norms of conduct.
It is nice to hear that you have resolutions in your switch to Linux. Contentment with one's decisions is always pleasant to experience: good for you.
I hope that this short note answers your concerns.