Rectify out-of-tune notes (audio guitar recording) ?
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- KVRist
- 345 posts since 7 Mar, 2023
Can anyone share a way to slightly change the pitch of notes in an audio recording?
For example: guitar notes that are slightly sharp or slightly flat.
Maybe the answer is a detuning plugin. Can anyone recommend one (preferably free)?
Thank you!
For example: guitar notes that are slightly sharp or slightly flat.
Maybe the answer is a detuning plugin. Can anyone recommend one (preferably free)?
Thank you!
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- KVRian
- 524 posts since 16 Mar, 2017
Melodyne is the best, but it is not free.
The essentials version of Melodyne does come bundled with Waveform Pro, however, as does some version of Autotune.
Some DAWs, such as Cubase and Ableton Live, have their own versions of this functionality integrated into the higher-tier versions of the DAWs. Again not free.
The essentials version of Melodyne does come bundled with Waveform Pro, however, as does some version of Autotune.
Some DAWs, such as Cubase and Ableton Live, have their own versions of this functionality integrated into the higher-tier versions of the DAWs. Again not free.
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Peter Widdicombe Peter Widdicombe https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=336849
- KVRian
- 1205 posts since 29 Aug, 2014
Not that I have a solution, but...
Was it recorded with the guitar slightly out of standard tuning, or were there some bad notes hit; and if the latter are they single notes, or a note within a chord ?
Was it recorded with the guitar slightly out of standard tuning, or were there some bad notes hit; and if the latter are they single notes, or a note within a chord ?
Waveform 13; Win10 desktop/8 Gig; Win11 Laptop; MPK261; VFX+disfunctional ESQ-1
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 345 posts since 7 Mar, 2023
It's a fingerstyle piece, with all single notes. Just certain notes are a bit out of tune due to using lighter strings than the player was used to, so some notes are a bit sharp where a fretted string was pressed too hard, or inadvertently bent slightly. Looking forward to your possible solution - thanks!Peter Widdicombe wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 3:21 am Not that I have a solution, but...
Was it recorded with the guitar slightly out of standard tuning, or were there some bad notes hit; and if the latter are they single notes, or a note within a chord ?
PS: I think I've found what I need: the pitch control, in clip/track properties!
Last edited by Ally007 on Wed Jun 21, 2023 6:39 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 345 posts since 7 Mar, 2023
I think I've found what I want: the pitch control built in to Waveform, in clip/track properties.
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- KVRian
- 544 posts since 24 Jan, 2004 from Sweden
I use Melodyne all the time, for vocals. An amazing program that I couldn't be without. So easy to use but still astonishingly good results.
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- KVRAF
- 2456 posts since 9 Oct, 2008 from UK
I think of it as the software equivalent of alchemy.Stuttaton wrote: Tue Jun 20, 2023 1:47 pm I use Melodyne all the time, for vocals. An amazing program that I couldn't be without. So easy to use but still astonishingly good results.
[W10-64, T5/6/7/W8/9/10/11/12/13, 32(to W8)&64 all, Spike],[W7-32, T5/6/7/W8, Gina16] everything underused.
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Peter Widdicombe Peter Widdicombe https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=336849
- KVRian
- 1205 posts since 29 Aug, 2014
That's a clip, rather than a track property. Unfortunately, that will transpose the whole clip; although I suppose you could split it and do sections.
It also looks like it does 1 cent, 10 cents, or 1 semitone, so maybe somewhat limiting?
Graillon is way overkill, but you could pitch-shift exactly (or let it auto-tune for you...).
It can also do harmonies on Guitar or vocals... PS - never used it, but it sounds interesting.
https://midination.com/vst/free-vst-plu ... t-plugins/
It also looks like it does 1 cent, 10 cents, or 1 semitone, so maybe somewhat limiting?
Graillon is way overkill, but you could pitch-shift exactly (or let it auto-tune for you...).
It can also do harmonies on Guitar or vocals... PS - never used it, but it sounds interesting.
https://midination.com/vst/free-vst-plu ... t-plugins/
Waveform 13; Win10 desktop/8 Gig; Win11 Laptop; MPK261; VFX+disfunctional ESQ-1
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- KVRian
- 501 posts since 3 Dec, 2021
You can definitely cut each note out and change the pitch of each clip segment. As an electronic/in the box guy I do it all the time. You have the steps that Peter mentioned but they are increments, so you can fine tune down to one cent in other words or anything larger. For natural sounding stuff you need to keep it small obviously.
It's the crossfades between your split clips that will sound the last natural if you dont take care. And reverb tails etc.
Also, that's a lot of tedious work! There's easier plugin options I believe.
It's the crossfades between your split clips that will sound the last natural if you dont take care. And reverb tails etc.
Also, that's a lot of tedious work! There's easier plugin options I believe.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 345 posts since 7 Mar, 2023
Yes, changing small sections is exactly what I did. As there are only half a dozen slighty off-pitch notes to correct, it's easy to do.Peter Widdicombe wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:28 am That's a clip, rather than a track property. Unfortunately, that will transpose the whole clip; although I suppose you could split it and do sections.
I think you are talking about the "change pitch" option. Immediately above that, is the "pitch" option, which is what I was referring to. It lets you change pitch in extremely fine increments. Changing the pitch of the off-pitch notes by 0.2 or 0.3 (plus or minus) did the trick for me, in the piece I'm working on.Peter Widdicombe wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:28 amIt also looks like it does 1 cent, 10 cents, or 1 semitone, so maybe somewhat limiting?
Yes, I looked at that plugin, recently. It looks like it could be useful. Thanks for your input.Peter Widdicombe wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:28 amGraillon is way overkill, but you could pitch-shift exactly (or let it auto-tune for you...).
It can also do harmonies on Guitar or vocals... PS - never used it, but it sounds interesting.
https://midination.com/vst/free-vst-plu ... t-plugins/
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 345 posts since 7 Mar, 2023
There were only a handful of off-pitch notes that I needed to correct in this case, so changing the pitch of those notes by 0.2 or 0.3 (plus or minus) did the trick. But yes it would be nice to have plugin that automatically corrects all off-pitch notes in a whole track, on one go. Maybe Graillon 2 will work, if the need arises; Yes, I agree about cross-fades. I've disabled that on my setup.dysjoint wrote: Wed Jun 21, 2023 12:50 am You can definitely cut each note out and change the pitch of each clip segment. As an electronic/in the box guy I do it all the time. You have the steps that Peter mentioned but they are increments, so you can fine tune down to one cent in other words or anything larger. For natural sounding stuff you need to keep it small obviously.
It's the crossfades between your split clips that will sound the last natural if you don't take care. And reverb tails etc.
Also, that's a lot of tedious work! There's easier plugin options I believe.
