Devious Machines release Multiband X6

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It was crunch, quickest attack, quickest release(neither of these sound like what the knobs says they are either)gain reduction pinned at the bottom of the range, maximum compression without engaging the high button, crossovers same as the default preset, linking 100%, lookahead 10ms

Even with less gain reduction it still sounds strange and not useful when i put it against Pro-MB or Multiplicity with the same amount of lookahead and regardless of what i do with the settings in either

I think what i am hearing is your lookahead is just a delay, because i could mimick the same sound with Compassion when i use long lookaheads without the FIR smoothing and hold, and get what i would expect from a lookahead by adding both back in with the delay
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woodsdenis wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:40 pm
zvenx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:15 pm Congrats.. Is there an intro pricing or is that the intro pricing and is there a discount for people who own other plugins by you?
thanks
rsp
If you have all the plugins you can get a bundle discount. About half price for me as I have them
How did you get the discount? I have all the DM plugins, but am only seeing the full price. Thanks.

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thecontrolcentre wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:15 pm
woodsdenis wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:40 pm
zvenx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:15 pm Congrats.. Is there an intro pricing or is that the intro pricing and is there a discount for people who own other plugins by you?
thanks
rsp
If you have all the plugins you can get a bundle discount. About half price for me as I have them
How did you get the discount? I have all the DM plugins, but am only seeing the full price. Thanks.
Drop us a note to support AT deviousmachines.com. If you bought them direct from us that's a bug/wrong email address, if you bought them from Plugin Boutique send over the receipts and we will sort your account out.

cheers!

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TIMT wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:57 pm It was crunch, quickest attack, quickest release(neither of these sound like what the knobs says they are either)gain reduction pinned at the bottom of the range, maximum compression without engaging the high button, crossovers same as the default preset, linking 100%, lookahead 10ms
Ok - we are looking into it. I think you are spot on and we should sort that out.

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jcredland wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:20 pm
thecontrolcentre wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:15 pm
woodsdenis wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:40 pm
zvenx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:15 pm Congrats.. Is there an intro pricing or is that the intro pricing and is there a discount for people who own other plugins by you?
thanks
rsp
If you have all the plugins you can get a bundle discount. About half price for me as I have them
How did you get the discount? I have all the DM plugins, but am only seeing the full price. Thanks.
Drop us a note to support AT deviousmachines.com. If you bought them direct from us that's a bug/wrong email address, if you bought them from Plugin Boutique send over the receipts and we will sort your account out.

cheers!
Thanks. I just re-checked and after adding Multiband X6 to my basket the price dropped :)

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can you get any kind of upgrade if you own other product?
I bought infiltrator 2 from plugin boutique so not showing in my account, upgrade for multiband on its own or the everything bundle?
thanks

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tonymax wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:01 pm can you get any kind of upgrade if you own other product?
I bought infiltrator 2 from plugin boutique so not showing in my account, upgrade for multiband on its own or the everything bundle?
thanks
You can upgrade from any combination of stuff to the Everything Bundle. If you bought from PIB drop a note to support AT deviousmachines.com with your receipt and we will fix up your account.

Later in the year I'm going to sort this so it's not a manual process!

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brilliant, thanks
jcredland wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:02 pm
tonymax wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:01 pm can you get any kind of upgrade if you own other product?
I bought infiltrator 2 from plugin boutique so not showing in my account, upgrade for multiband on its own or the everything bundle?
thanks
You can upgrade from any combination of stuff to the Everything Bundle. If you bought from PIB drop a note to support AT deviousmachines.com with your receipt and we will fix up your account.

Later in the year I'm going to sort this so it's not a manual process!

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thecontrolcentre wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:15 pm
woodsdenis wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:40 pm
zvenx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:15 pm Congrats.. Is there an intro pricing or is that the intro pricing and is there a discount for people who own other plugins by you?
thanks
rsp
If you have all the plugins you can get a bundle discount. About half price for me as I have them
How did you get the discount? I have all the DM plugins, but am only seeing the full price. Thanks.
Log in and get the bundle
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woodsdenis wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:06 pm
thecontrolcentre wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:15 pm How did you get the discount? I have all the DM plugins, but am only seeing the full price. Thanks.
Log in and get the bundle
Got it :tu:

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i love Devious Machines' plugins, anyone got this tested already?
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TIMT wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:55 am what's goin on with the lookahead? If i set it to 10ms it's letting through more attack?? That doesn't make sense. I compared it with Pro-MB just to make sure i wasn't misremembering what long lookaheads sound like and it sounded how i remembered in my head it sounds

Is this just a delay on the input that goes to the sidechain? Cause that's what it sounds like. I thought that there was a hold that was necessary to make lookahead function the way it does like in Fabfilter's dynamics stuff
We think there was definitely a problem with hold when the lookahead was set to 20ms. I'm surprised about the 10ms though?

If you have time and energy to look at this can you see if v1.0.29 which is now in the beta section of our site (https://deviousmachines.com/multibandx6-downloads/) solves the problem for you.

If not I'd love a simple test session/instructions to reproduce the problem and we will get it sorted.

In your other post you describe some setup steps but what audio are using to test it?

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jcredland wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:37 pm
TIMT wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:55 am what's goin on with the lookahead? If i set it to 10ms it's letting through more attack?? That doesn't make sense. I compared it with Pro-MB just to make sure i wasn't misremembering what long lookaheads sound like and it sounded how i remembered in my head it sounds

Is this just a delay on the input that goes to the sidechain? Cause that's what it sounds like. I thought that there was a hold that was necessary to make lookahead function the way it does like in Fabfilter's dynamics stuff
We think there was definitely a problem with hold when the lookahead was set to 20ms. I'm surprised about the 10ms though?

If you have time and energy to look at this can you see if v1.0.29 which is now in the beta section of our site (https://deviousmachines.com/multibandx6-downloads/) solves the problem for you.

If not I'd love a simple test session/instructions to reproduce the problem and we will get it sorted.

In your other post you describe some setup steps but what audio are using to test it?
It was a drumloop with an 808 kick in the mix. When i set the lookahead to 10ms it sounded like there were bits of the kick slipping through even moreso than having no lookahead at all

I'll check that build over the weekend and get back to you

What about the parameter ranges on the attack and release? It certainly doesn't sound like the attack is in usec, nor does the release sound a hair short of being straight waveshaping which is what i would expect of a release less than 1msec
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jcredland wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:54 pm
Raddler1 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:43 pm A multiband compressor is a plugin usually destined for mastering. Why would you interrupt that critical listening process with a blast of white noise?

The demo white noise doesn't need to be loud to be effective. Why is that so hard for developers to understand?
Raddler - Sorry - I agree - a mistake on my part I'll get that tweaked :)

(I've been using it more on individual tracks than on the master bus so it hadn't jumped out as such a problem).
Thanks for taking care of that.

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TIMT wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:55 am What about the parameter ranges on the attack and release? It certainly doesn't sound like the attack is in usec, nor does the release sound a hair short of being straight waveshaping which is what i would expect of a release less than 1msec
There's quite a lot going on to minimise distortion and make it musically useful. And the exact effect will vary between modes as well, and with input signal level and so on.

I'll give it the once over with a sonic screwdriver and oscilloscope next week though in case there's anything worth tightening up at the extremely fast end of the settings range... without breaking anything.

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