Devious Machines release Multiband X6
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- KVRian
- 1073 posts since 8 Mar, 2009
It was crunch, quickest attack, quickest release(neither of these sound like what the knobs says they are either)gain reduction pinned at the bottom of the range, maximum compression without engaging the high button, crossovers same as the default preset, linking 100%, lookahead 10ms
Even with less gain reduction it still sounds strange and not useful when i put it against Pro-MB or Multiplicity with the same amount of lookahead and regardless of what i do with the settings in either
I think what i am hearing is your lookahead is just a delay, because i could mimick the same sound with Compassion when i use long lookaheads without the FIR smoothing and hold, and get what i would expect from a lookahead by adding both back in with the delay
Even with less gain reduction it still sounds strange and not useful when i put it against Pro-MB or Multiplicity with the same amount of lookahead and regardless of what i do with the settings in either
I think what i am hearing is your lookahead is just a delay, because i could mimick the same sound with Compassion when i use long lookaheads without the FIR smoothing and hold, and get what i would expect from a lookahead by adding both back in with the delay
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
How did you get the discount? I have all the DM plugins, but am only seeing the full price. Thanks.woodsdenis wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:40 pmIf you have all the plugins you can get a bundle discount. About half price for me as I have themzvenx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:15 pm Congrats.. Is there an intro pricing or is that the intro pricing and is there a discount for people who own other plugins by you?
thanks
rsp
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- KVRist
- 183 posts since 19 Nov, 2018
Drop us a note to support AT deviousmachines.com. If you bought them direct from us that's a bug/wrong email address, if you bought them from Plugin Boutique send over the receipts and we will sort your account out.thecontrolcentre wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:15 pmHow did you get the discount? I have all the DM plugins, but am only seeing the full price. Thanks.woodsdenis wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:40 pmIf you have all the plugins you can get a bundle discount. About half price for me as I have themzvenx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:15 pm Congrats.. Is there an intro pricing or is that the intro pricing and is there a discount for people who own other plugins by you?
thanks
rsp
cheers!
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- KVRist
- 183 posts since 19 Nov, 2018
Ok - we are looking into it. I think you are spot on and we should sort that out.TIMT wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 1:57 pm It was crunch, quickest attack, quickest release(neither of these sound like what the knobs says they are either)gain reduction pinned at the bottom of the range, maximum compression without engaging the high button, crossovers same as the default preset, linking 100%, lookahead 10ms
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
Thanks. I just re-checked and after adding Multiband X6 to my basket the price droppedjcredland wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:20 pmDrop us a note to support AT deviousmachines.com. If you bought them direct from us that's a bug/wrong email address, if you bought them from Plugin Boutique send over the receipts and we will sort your account out.thecontrolcentre wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:15 pmHow did you get the discount? I have all the DM plugins, but am only seeing the full price. Thanks.woodsdenis wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:40 pmIf you have all the plugins you can get a bundle discount. About half price for me as I have themzvenx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:15 pm Congrats.. Is there an intro pricing or is that the intro pricing and is there a discount for people who own other plugins by you?
thanks
rsp
cheers!
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- KVRian
- 555 posts since 1 Dec, 2013 from UK
can you get any kind of upgrade if you own other product?
I bought infiltrator 2 from plugin boutique so not showing in my account, upgrade for multiband on its own or the everything bundle?
thanks
I bought infiltrator 2 from plugin boutique so not showing in my account, upgrade for multiband on its own or the everything bundle?
thanks
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- KVRist
- 183 posts since 19 Nov, 2018
You can upgrade from any combination of stuff to the Everything Bundle. If you bought from PIB drop a note to support AT deviousmachines.com with your receipt and we will fix up your account.tonymax wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:01 pm can you get any kind of upgrade if you own other product?
I bought infiltrator 2 from plugin boutique so not showing in my account, upgrade for multiband on its own or the everything bundle?
thanks
Later in the year I'm going to sort this so it's not a manual process!
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- KVRian
- 555 posts since 1 Dec, 2013 from UK
brilliant, thanks
jcredland wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:02 pmYou can upgrade from any combination of stuff to the Everything Bundle. If you bought from PIB drop a note to support AT deviousmachines.com with your receipt and we will fix up your account.tonymax wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 3:01 pm can you get any kind of upgrade if you own other product?
I bought infiltrator 2 from plugin boutique so not showing in my account, upgrade for multiband on its own or the everything bundle?
thanks
Later in the year I'm going to sort this so it's not a manual process!
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- KVRAF
- 1945 posts since 25 Feb, 2005
Log in and get the bundlethecontrolcentre wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:15 pmHow did you get the discount? I have all the DM plugins, but am only seeing the full price. Thanks.woodsdenis wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:40 pmIf you have all the plugins you can get a bundle discount. About half price for me as I have themzvenx wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 6:15 pm Congrats.. Is there an intro pricing or is that the intro pricing and is there a discount for people who own other plugins by you?
thanks
rsp
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
Got itwoodsdenis wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 5:06 pmLog in and get the bundlethecontrolcentre wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 2:15 pm How did you get the discount? I have all the DM plugins, but am only seeing the full price. Thanks.
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- KVRAF
- 9657 posts since 5 Aug, 2009
i love Devious Machines' plugins, anyone got this tested already?
DAW FL Studio Audio Interface Focusrite Scarlett 1st Gen 2i2 CPU Intel i7-7700K 4.20 GHz, RAM 32 GB Dual-Channel DDR4 @2400MHz Corsair Vengeance. MB Asus Prime Z270-K, GPU Gainward 1070 GTX GS 8GB NT Be Quiet DP 550W OS Win10 64Bit
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- KVRist
- 183 posts since 19 Nov, 2018
We think there was definitely a problem with hold when the lookahead was set to 20ms. I'm surprised about the 10ms though?TIMT wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:55 am what's goin on with the lookahead? If i set it to 10ms it's letting through more attack?? That doesn't make sense. I compared it with Pro-MB just to make sure i wasn't misremembering what long lookaheads sound like and it sounded how i remembered in my head it sounds
Is this just a delay on the input that goes to the sidechain? Cause that's what it sounds like. I thought that there was a hold that was necessary to make lookahead function the way it does like in Fabfilter's dynamics stuff
If you have time and energy to look at this can you see if v1.0.29 which is now in the beta section of our site (https://deviousmachines.com/multibandx6-downloads/) solves the problem for you.
If not I'd love a simple test session/instructions to reproduce the problem and we will get it sorted.
In your other post you describe some setup steps but what audio are using to test it?
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- KVRian
- 1073 posts since 8 Mar, 2009
It was a drumloop with an 808 kick in the mix. When i set the lookahead to 10ms it sounded like there were bits of the kick slipping through even moreso than having no lookahead at alljcredland wrote: Fri Jun 30, 2023 1:37 pmWe think there was definitely a problem with hold when the lookahead was set to 20ms. I'm surprised about the 10ms though?TIMT wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:55 am what's goin on with the lookahead? If i set it to 10ms it's letting through more attack?? That doesn't make sense. I compared it with Pro-MB just to make sure i wasn't misremembering what long lookaheads sound like and it sounded how i remembered in my head it sounds
Is this just a delay on the input that goes to the sidechain? Cause that's what it sounds like. I thought that there was a hold that was necessary to make lookahead function the way it does like in Fabfilter's dynamics stuff
If you have time and energy to look at this can you see if v1.0.29 which is now in the beta section of our site (https://deviousmachines.com/multibandx6-downloads/) solves the problem for you.
If not I'd love a simple test session/instructions to reproduce the problem and we will get it sorted.
In your other post you describe some setup steps but what audio are using to test it?
I'll check that build over the weekend and get back to you
What about the parameter ranges on the attack and release? It certainly doesn't sound like the attack is in usec, nor does the release sound a hair short of being straight waveshaping which is what i would expect of a release less than 1msec
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- KVRist
- 480 posts since 17 Mar, 2012 from Montreal
Thanks for taking care of that.jcredland wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:54 pmRaddler - Sorry - I agree - a mistake on my part I'll get that tweakedRaddler1 wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 7:43 pm A multiband compressor is a plugin usually destined for mastering. Why would you interrupt that critical listening process with a blast of white noise?
The demo white noise doesn't need to be loud to be effective. Why is that so hard for developers to understand?
(I've been using it more on individual tracks than on the master bus so it hadn't jumped out as such a problem).
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- KVRist
- 183 posts since 19 Nov, 2018
There's quite a lot going on to minimise distortion and make it musically useful. And the exact effect will vary between modes as well, and with input signal level and so on.TIMT wrote: Thu Jun 29, 2023 11:55 am What about the parameter ranges on the attack and release? It certainly doesn't sound like the attack is in usec, nor does the release sound a hair short of being straight waveshaping which is what i would expect of a release less than 1msec
I'll give it the once over with a sonic screwdriver and oscilloscope next week though in case there's anything worth tightening up at the extremely fast end of the settings range... without breaking anything.
