No, I didn’t, but I’m having the same preset issue. I’ve contacted them about it and I guess a fix is in the works. I yelled at the level one customer service dork who suggested I didn’t have the MPE button activated in Bitwig, as if MPE has anything to do with recalling a preset properly.dlandis wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 8:41 pmThanks for checking! I still like Cypher 2 and Strobe 2, but as I mentioned, it does get a wearisome trying to account for voice allocation hassles. Usually, rolling off 4 voices covers the issue, but sometimes this lowers the possibility for use in a given song. This may be an i9 specific issue (Angus kind of alluded to that possibility, if I understood him correctly.) I really like Equator 2, but it has issues loading presets (mostly, if not entirely, centered in the FX portion of the preset) in Bitwig. ROLI is aware of this and has promised this issue will be fixed in the next update. In Studio One, it's fine, but, of course, one loses the fifth dimension of MPE in Studio One: Lift. As of Studio One 6, Lift is still not recognized. Presonus has given no date for this issue to be fixed.zerocrossing wrote: Sun Jul 09, 2023 4:40 amWell, Roli’s still going, still selling Rise 2’s as far as I can tell. Sure, they’re focused on Equator 2, but they’re still selling Strobe and Cypher and I think it fills a much needed hole in the analog emulation MPE market. TAL and Arturia are OK, but in terms of MPE integration, Roli FXspansion is still the best, IMO.dlandis wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 5:30 pmI think the word "dead" when applied to software has a range of meanings from "not presently in development, but still operational" to "barely being able to function in the current mileau" to "not being usable in an ever increasing number of contemporarily plausible scenarios," to (finally) "not being usable at all on current equipment." Some of the uses of the term are also contextual based on past developmental behavior and whether there have been factors that have slowed or (apparently, at least) stopped further attention to the software from the owner/developer. Almost paradoxically, the use of the word can have a "dynamic" (as opposed to "static") quality.zerocrossing wrote: Sat Jul 08, 2023 4:36 pm I guess I don’t understand the “if it’s not continuously developed, it’s dead to me” mentality.
Angus' leaving was obviously something that fits into several of these possible schemata. He was the lead, I believe, on Cypher 2 and was often working to find snags on that VST (I believe he was working on the issue I mentioned regarding voice allocation around the time he left. He seemed to indicate that my i9 was not the preferred processor in view when Strobe 2 and Cypher 2 were developed.) If there were updates after his leaving (and it was clearly demonstrated that ROLI still considered Strobe 2 and Cypher 2 valid pieces of software in their own right and not the unloved sisters from a previous marriage before the darling child of Equator 2 came along from the new union,) it would have gone a long way to assuaging that vague feeling of dread. And while your comment about impOSCar 2 is particularly apt, it should be noted that 1) impOSCar 2 is relatively bugless in my experience (at least, I've never had an issue with it,) and 2) there are assurances that impOSCar 3 is on the way, probably soon.
ROLI itself has had a number of issues, both structurally and financially (as these two often intertwine.) The effect on the company as a whole has been largely negative and produced a much needed evaluation of the previous business model. While it is heartening to observe that ROLI has not deleted Strobe 2 and Cypher 2 from their catalog, per se, it should be acknowledged that it is far easier to allow software "to sit on a shelf, gathering dust" (virtually, if you will,) than it is to maintain viable pathways for manufacturing and distributing hardware. Hence, Strobe 2 and Cypher 2 remain, while the Seaboard Block keyboard is relegated to the scrapheap. My use of metaphor may be a bit hyperbolic, but you get my gist.
While I can't speak for anyone else, I know that I try to use the term "dead" regarding software while allowing for the range of meaning. I feel that I, in good conscience, have to allow for this range because of my own ignorance insofar as a company's intentions are concerned: I acknowledge that I have no understanding of the inner workings of a given manufacturer. In full judgement of current facts, however, I can't ignore the lack of movement regarding the software, either.
FWIW.
BTW, sir, did you get a chance to check the version number of your copy of Strobe 2 and/or Cypher 2? If you would, could you be so kind as to check your version of Equator 2 as well?
Again, thanks for the help!
I did check my version, it’s the same as yours, 2.6.1. I guess I was mistaken, I must have been thinking about an Equator 2 update. But it’s solid and I’ve not really found a bug.
BTW, did you happen to check on what update number you have for Equator 2?
