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foosnark wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 2:49 pm To me it makes just as much sense to have these in the rack as it does a filter, oscillator or modulation source. But it would make less sense for effects that you only intend to use in an end-of-chain way, so I don't tend toward reverbs in the rack (except the built-in reverb that Mimeophon and Beads can do, or psuedo-reverb created by diffuse delays/granulizing).
My approach too.

It's great that we all get to decide what's useful in our racks. For example, I have very few filters and the ones I do use aren't usually part of a typical subtractive patch. I have a bunch of effects modules and I often use them as part of the voice, not so much as an end of chain thing (I don't have any multi-effect modules). I think the first single module I bought after getting my old Doepfer system was a Tyme Sefari, so I guess it's always been part of the way I use my modular.

Some folks have a ton of oscillators and very few signal processors, some have just like a single voice and a bunch of sequencing and modulation sources. I've seen lots of folks who get started with out any signal generators, as they just want to process sound from their DAW or drum machines. I haven't found a way to speed-run the trial and error process of finding what works for me and I'm glad that there isn't like a right way to do it.

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that's it! for me, part of the fun is the journey, i have no desire to build a finished synth, just explore what comes.

so far, aside from a couple of doepfer modules (spring and a bbd) ive had no issues with getting use out of modules, often ill wish i had more space and money to double some of them even :lol:
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also, feedback loops :band:

lots more fun, with more stuff! delays/filters/dirt/modulation fx...
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vurt wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:28 pmfor all of us?
You too yes, i have plenty of room for the scooter even. You just have to bring the weed. :tu:

*Sadly, i have to smoke in the car actually.

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I think a lot sensible things have been said here.
justin3am wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:14 pm It's great that we all get to decide what's useful in our racks.

Some folks have a ton of oscillators and very few signal processors, some have just like a single voice and a bunch of sequencing and modulation sources...
Yes, i guess it IS a personal journey. I guess it is no coincidence that i ve fallen for Erica synths with their overdriven sound and screeching filters. When i hear that grit, i m like wooow. This is what gets my juices flowing.
I ve already investigated the effects i mentioned a bit. There was this interesting video comparing Morphagene and Nebulae. It s nice I suppose but it doesn t get my juices flowing.
While i appreciate granular stuff and whatever, it is not the first thing on my radar.
I do want to experience it as part of my journey but i m in no hurry.

vurt wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:24 pm that's it! for me, part of the fun is the journey, i have no desire to build a finished synth, just explore what comes.
Yes!
Personally I also find it interesting to investigate stuff without actually owning them. I don t need to own them persé. For example the Buchla devices that were an inspiration for the Spectraphon. I enjoyed looking into that.
The Spectraphon didn t do it for me, so i am hoping that a future module will bring that additive thinking with more success (the 4ms ensemble is on my radar; keeping an eye on Odessa also to get additive in my rig)

imrae wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 5:09 pm I guess the key question for modular FX is "am I going to send CV to this?"
Yes, i m not quite there yet to use an effect as part of the voice. It s more of a fire and forget.
But the FX aid is 'prepared' for that as it has 4 cv ins.
Actually, i think the Fx aid can get me pretty far. It has 200 effects and some nice gems in there. I still have a lot to discover there.

WatchTheGuitar wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 4:13 pm I think a lot of it is down to what you already have. I owned shit loads of effects plugins before getting into modular so it didn't make sense to me to throw the baby out with the bathwater,
I do have a lot of effect plugins on my computer. And frankly, there are some real gems there that do their business for a lot less money. While modular filters are mostly the real analog thing and a step up compared to emulated filters, getting multiple digital modular effects at 500 euro a pop is not easy to justify.

vurt wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 12:37 pm size wise, if you are dead set on staying small, it's going to be tough to get more than one on the rack, so that may also factor in for you.
I m constantly looking for space and I already had to kick out several modules, so I guess I m going for a Behringer Go with plenty of space.

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Stefken wrote: Tue Jul 11, 2023 7:27 pm It s nice I suppose but it doesn t get my juices flowing.

this!
go with what excites you when you hear it.
if something doesnt, or if you find yourself asking "can i justify this?" its probably not for you, you wont need to justify things that work for you, you just know you will use them :)


i learned many years ago, with non music stuff, the things i ummed and ahhed over, whether i should buy them, were always the things that ended up being ignored or bored with very quickly. games for example, the games i was excited about, like ff 7, kept me entertained for literally years! others not so much, rarely completed, never revisited.
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A rig i came up with in a Behringer Go rack.
Their depth is pretty annoying to deal with.

The rackbrute has a depth of 70 mm ~throughout.
These have a depth of only 40 mm in the back, in the front 60 mm but in the middle of the front row it gets shallow again.
Annoying buggers :?

But look there is even room left for some overpriced effects. :lol:

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https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/2300149




This is the Mantis, but i guess i prefer the Go. It s bigger and thus by definition better in GAS land :P

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https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/2298727
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didn't know they had mantis on there now.
not sure i can be arsed moving everything from generic boxes :hihi:
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how is it bigger? aren't they both 104 hp?
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vurt wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:04 pm how is it bigger? aren't they both 104 hp?
Nope, the Behringer Go is 140 HP, so quite a bit bigger.
The leap from 88 HP (Arturia) is not all that big for the Mantis, but for the Go it is a big difference.

The images get scaled to the same width here.
Click the modular grid links and the difference will be apparent.

P.s. : the Mantis is not a Behringer clone.
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This is what I have in my two Go cases currently if it helps

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https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/2163544

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https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/2168635

I have offloaded my few overly deep modules to a couple of other racks

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Stefken wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:09 pm
vurt wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:04 pm how is it bigger? aren't they both 104 hp?
Nope, the Behringer Go is 140 HP, so quite a bit bigger.
The leap from 88 HP (Arturia) is not all that big for the Mantis, but for the Go it is a big difference.

The images get scaled to the same width here.
Click the modular grid links and the difference will be apparent.

P.s. : the Mantis is not a Behringer clone.
im on a phone, can't really see the images (shit eyesight as well).

cool, i thought they were a similar dimension, not so much a clone as a case is a case is a case :hihi:
suppose it makes sense, as some of their analog stuff is quite big, so for a full rack of roland clones for example, the extra space counts 8)
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WatchTheGuitar wrote: Wed Jul 12, 2023 7:12 pm This is what I have in my two Go cases currently if it helps

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https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/2163544

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https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/2168635

I have offloaded my few overly deep modules to a couple of other racks
Yeah, looking at other rigs is always inspiring. So many directions you can go....
They are really packed.
Never heard of the Selam but it looks really cool. I think Tesseract is under-appreciated really.

How is your experience with the Soundforce dual filter?

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https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/630102

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https://www.modulargrid.net/e/racks/view/1239634

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thats not quite mine.
rene and the doepfer vca mixer are currently not racked, spectraphon and echophon took their spaces.
although at this moment, rene is in the rack, but not plugged in, just stopping dust, waiting on my spectraphon to be replaced tomorrow :party:
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fixed.
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