Ableton Push 3 - standalone MPE controller

[sQeetz]

Shift Record does Capture on Push 2 apparently. I found this out after I got my 3

You need TWO hands for that!! This is madness!

[pottering]

Shift Record does Capture on Push 2 apparently. I found this out after I got my 3

You need TWO hands for that!! This is madness!

You can hold Record then press New for capturing, that can be done with one hand.

[pdxindy]

That's it. I can't stand editing clips on the Push. It's cumbersome and slow and... I'm way faster with a mouse and monitor..

I've discovered over time (and considerable expense) that I am faster with mouse and screen for the majority of what Push is used for. That's why my Push ended up in the closet.

I am interested in Push 3 as an MPE controller. But it is just too complex considering I wouldn't use most of it. I'd be more interested in a simplified Push 3 Lite controller.

[carrieres]

Erae touch from Embodme Is less expensive and simpler than Push3

[sQeetz]

I don't really care for MPE actually.... All I want/need is the jogwheel. And I can't justify a grand just for that.

[machinesworking]

They obviously weren’t set up to handle the amount of returns they’re dealing with

Curious to know more about this - is there a news article or something? Couldn’t see anything in KVR.

Me too, I can't find any info on 'the amount of returns'. Probably all in his/her head...

There are plenty of threads on the Ableton forums addressing this, with employees of Ableton chiming in to apologize for the delay. It's a backlog, they admit it, nothing is "in my head".

Thanks - I just checked several threads there and I think you might be mistaken. I can only see one thread where an Ableton person says anything except "we have a lot of support requests" but they always have a lot of support requests and always take a long time to respond. One time I asked for help a couple of years ago it took them three weeks to reply.

It's not helping or harming anything if you decide it's not true, but Tarekith agreeing with me in that thread that it's looking a bit like v8 release is all I need. They weren't equipped to handle the extra support that the push 3 launch created, that's all.

[machinesworking]

I don't really care for MPE actually.... All I want/need is the jogwheel. And I can't justify a grand just for that.

The MPE is a bonus, but what I wanted was an all in one solution, standalone isn't there yet. I'm probably buying the controller version though, still comes with a built in audio interface and ADAT, and of course the full version of Live, (and Bitwig eventually) will do everything missing for me in standalone. In my case the ADAT might be the tipping point since I currently use it to plug into an old Fireface 800 hooked up to my studio.

[drez]

I don't really care for MPE actually.... All I want/need is the jogwheel. And I can't justify a grand just for that.

The MPE is a bonus, but what I wanted was an all in one solution, standalone isn't there yet. I'm probably buying the controller version though, still comes with a built in audio interface and ADAT, and of course the full version of Live, (and Bitwig eventually) will do everything missing for me in standalone. In my case the ADAT might be the tipping point since I currently use it to plug into an old Fireface 800 hooked up to my studio.

I've seen your posts about hooking up a Fireface to the Push 3. I've never used ADAT, and really not used audio interfaces for anything other than headphones, but am going to get a few more pieces of external gear and am curious how people are going to use them, both with audio and CV. Good thread about it over on the elektronauts forum.

[elxsound]

That's it. I can't stand editing clips on the Push. It's cumbersome and slow and... I'm way faster with a mouse and monitor..

I've discovered over time (and considerable expense) that I am faster with mouse and screen for the majority of what Push is used for. That's why my Push ended up in the closet.

I am interested in Push 3 as an MPE controller. But it is just too complex considering I wouldn't use most of it. I'd be more interested in a simplified Push 3 Lite controller.

I’m curious about your take on the MPE pads. These will definitely suit my needs as I’m likely to use them most similarly to the that Ned Rush video (Kaoss pad like control on drum racks).

[elxsound]

I don't really care for MPE actually.... All I want/need is the jogwheel. And I can't justify a grand just for that.

The MPE is a bonus, but what I wanted was an all in one solution, standalone isn't there yet. I'm probably buying the controller version though, still comes with a built in audio interface and ADAT, and of course the full version of Live, (and Bitwig eventually) will do everything missing for me in standalone. In my case the ADAT might be the tipping point since I currently use it to plug into an old Fireface 800 hooked up to my studio.

I've seen your posts about hooking up a Fireface to the Push 3. I've never used ADAT, and really not used audio interfaces for anything other than headphones, but am going to get a few more pieces of external gear and am curious how people are going to use them, both with audio and CV. Good thread about it over on the elektronauts forum.

I’m going to give it a try this weekend, using it with my focusrite 18i20 interface.

The biggest thing I’m looking to take advantage of with ADAT is using it with modular. If Boredbrain releases their v2 of Optx, I’m likely picking it up. There were lots of complaints of noise on the current Optx version so it depends on the improvements and of course price. Expert Sleepers have competing products, so I’m hoping to see what becomes available. .

[machinesworking]

I don't really care for MPE actually.... All I want/need is the jogwheel. And I can't justify a grand just for that.

The MPE is a bonus, but what I wanted was an all in one solution, standalone isn't there yet. I'm probably buying the controller version though, still comes with a built in audio interface and ADAT, and of course the full version of Live, (and Bitwig eventually) will do everything missing for me in standalone. In my case the ADAT might be the tipping point since I currently use it to plug into an old Fireface 800 hooked up to my studio.

I've seen your posts about hooking up a Fireface to the Push 3. I've never used ADAT, and really not used audio interfaces for anything other than headphones, but am going to get a few more pieces of external gear and am curious how people are going to use them, both with audio and CV. Good thread about it over on the elektronauts forum.

I currently hook up a babyface to the FF800 to use the four mic press in front and 8 in/out line inputs on the FF800 to the rest of my studio, I have four hardware synths, an MPC Live II, mics and guitars1 etc. permanently hooked up to Live and other DAWs I use.
So currently the Babyface is the hub, that takes no time to be a portable setup, I’ll likely sign up for the controller version of Push 3 and sell the Babyface and Push 2.

As far as CV apparently the Push 3 can use the pedal outputs for CV so in my case that’s where I would go for CV out.

[3lu5iv3]

instead of using Live Intro provided with Push 3 standalone, is it possible to login with Live Suite and use all the features?

[SLiC]

instead of using Live Intro provided with Push 3 standalone, is it possible to login with Live Suite and use all the features?

Yes, that is exactly how it is designed to work and it is seamless.

[rod_zero]

I don't really care for MPE actually.... All I want/need is the jogwheel. And I can't justify a grand just for that.

The MPE is a bonus, but what I wanted was an all in one solution, standalone isn't there yet. I'm probably buying the controller version though, still comes with a built in audio interface and ADAT, and of course the full version of Live, (and Bitwig eventually) will do everything missing for me in standalone. In my case the ADAT might be the tipping point since I currently use it to plug into an old Fireface 800 hooked up to my studio.

I've seen your posts about hooking up a Fireface to the Push 3. I've never used ADAT, and really not used audio interfaces for anything other than headphones, but am going to get a few more pieces of external gear and am curious how people are going to use them, both with audio and CV. Good thread about it over on the elektronauts forum.

I currently hook up a babyface to the FF800 to use the four mic press in front and 8 in/out line inputs on the FF800 to the rest of my studio, I have four hardware synths, an MPC Live II, mics and guitars1 etc. permanently hooked up to Live and other DAWs I use.
So currently the Babyface is the hub, that takes no time to be a portable setup, I’ll likely sign up for the controller version of Push 3 and sell the Babyface and Push 2.

As far as CV apparently the Push 3 can use the pedal outputs for CV so in my case that’s where I would go for CV out.

Since you have two RME interfaces I would like to ask, it is true you can use them at the same time in a computer and total mix will treat them as a single unit? kind of like aggregate devices on Mac.

[machinesworking]

Since you have two RME interfaces I would like to ask, it is true you can use them at the same time in a computer and total mix will treat them as a single unit? kind of like aggregate devices on Mac.

I’ve heard they can do that, but aim not sure? I keep the 800 hooked up to an old Mac Pro with firewire, and use adat to use it standalone as 8 in/outs.

Personally the reason for this is you don’t have to change anything when you use the laptop with just the Babyface.