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Funkybot's Evil Twin · Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:07 pm

For what it's worth, I have both the Roland Juno plugins, the TAL Juno, and the Softube. The Softube is by far my favorite.

If we're talking Jupiter, TAL wins for me.

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 8:20 pm

Honestly, my favorite Juno plugin right now is Air's Jura. Having a solid Juno 60/106 emulation running on my MPC and Force in standalone is freak'n awesome.

frag · Post by **frag** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:51 pm

jeffn1 wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:38 pm

How do you even know what's subjective and what's objective?
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It's subjective.
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Your opinion that my opinion is subjective, is subjective. You've just confirmed this.
But my opinion that Tal's Juno sounds better than RC is OBJECTIVE. My opinions are objective because they are based on sensory perceptions.
Yours are subjective because you decided to ignore objective reality.

osofaux · Post by **osofaux** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:23 pm

ToddlerTN wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:33 pm So here we are in the middle of Roland’s biggest annual cloud promo, and there’s zero news or buzz or even a hint at anything to look forward to in the upcoming year? At least try and sell me. I’d settle for a promise to fix the XV-5080 patch display bug.

It's been over a year since their last ACB offering, I agree that a bit of news would be most welcome. There seem to be a lot of people here who would like to see a JX-8P. Personally I'd rather see an Alpha Juno, but since they share the same filter I would imagine when we see one, we'll probably see the other as the next release. Maybe. I hope.

Luka_Kostii · Post by **Luka_Kostii** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:26 pm

frag wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:51 pm Your opinion that my opinion is subjective, is subjective. You've just confirmed this.
But my opinion that Tal's Juno sounds better than RC is OBJECTIVE. My opinions are objective because they are based on sensory perceptions.
Yours are subjective because you decided to ignore objective reality.

Sire, ain't you a philosopher! A real phenomenon! And we have latest from China... wait for it... They say Confucius rolled in his grave and unleashed a 3 thousand year old fart he's been holding, as he rejoiced he's finally met his match! They haven't seen fireworks like that go off in years and, mind you, that's China we're talking about.

A proper "saludos" to your talents has been voiced, sir. Hooray, gentlemen! Hooray!

Fleer · Post by **Fleer** » Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:35 pm

The gift of humor.

Atlatnesiti · Post by **Atlatnesiti** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:06 am

ToddlerTN wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:33 pm So here we are in the middle of Roland’s biggest annual cloud promo, and there’s zero news or buzz or even a hint at anything to look forward to in the upcoming year? At least try and sell me.

So what was the point of this? Can someone enlighten me please…

ToddlerTN · Post by **ToddlerTN** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:10 am

Atlatnesiti wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:06 am
ToddlerTN wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 6:33 pm So here we are in the middle of Roland’s biggest annual cloud promo, and there’s zero news or buzz or even a hint at anything to look forward to in the upcoming year? At least try and sell me.
So what was the point of this? Can someone enlighten me please…

I’m simply expressing my surprise that Roland is running their biggest promo of the year while doing so little to generate excitement and attract/retain customers. I already own a few Roland Cloud instruments outright. I’ve also got Loyalty keys to burn. Nothing new was offered last year, and I don’t see much reason to renew my Ultimate during P4L just to earn more keys and continue my Roland Cloud Ultimate subscription if there’s nothing new coming in the next year. I’m looking for a reason to give them another $200. If there is anything new coming this year, this would be a great time for Roland to talk about it.

WatchTheGuitar · Post by **WatchTheGuitar** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:22 am

Crickets so far. If it’s still the case by August 8th then they’ve made a mistake.

frag · Post by **frag** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:38 am

Luka_Kostii wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:26 pm
frag wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:51 pm Your opinion that my opinion is subjective, is subjective. You've just confirmed this.
But my opinion that Tal's Juno sounds better than RC is OBJECTIVE. My opinions are objective because they are based on sensory perceptions.
Yours are subjective because you decided to ignore objective reality.
Sire, ain't you a philosopher! A real phenomenon! And we have latest from China... wait for it... They say Confucius rolled in his grave and unleashed a 3 thousand year old fart he's been holding, as he rejoiced he's finally met his match! They haven't seen fireworks like that go off in years and, mind you, that's China we're talking about.

A proper "saludos" to your talents has been voiced, sir. Hooray, gentlemen! Hooray!

Yes, now it makes sense.
Roland CLOUD - get it?

GAS - get it?

EnochLight · Post by **EnochLight** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:44 pm

frag wrote: Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:51 pm My opinions are objective because they are based on sensory perceptions.
Yours are subjective because you decided to ignore objective reality.

It's my objective perspective that you have no idea how to properly quote someone in a basic Internet forum.

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Jon at Roland · Post by **Jon at Roland** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:51 pm

EnochLight wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:39 pm
Jon at Roland wrote: Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:41 pm So sorry about that EnochLight! I emailed you back but maybe something got lost in the mix. I'll send you the information via email. If you are able to make it that's great!
Still don't see any emails - checked my Spam folder as well. I don't have any filters blocking Roland emails, so not sure why I'm not getting anything from you.

Hmm that is so weird. We will definitely get you in on the next one!

Jon at Roland · Post by **Jon at Roland** » Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:46 pm

Hey everyone! Jon from Roland Cloud here.

Thank you so much to all the Roland Cloud Roundtable participants. It was so great to interact with some of our community members face to face and have an open discussion about the future of Roland Cloud. We learned so much from the wide variety of workflows and opinions that were shared and we are very much looking forward to doing another one soon.

That being said, if you missed this event and would like to attend a Roundtable in the future, please comment here and we’ll reach out to you for the next one!

We appreciate all of your feedback and support.
As always, feel free to reach out to me anytime with questions or concerns you may have.

victoria · Post by **victoria** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:48 am

Jon at Roland wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:46 pm As always, feel free to reach out to me anytime with questions or concerns you may have.

Hi Jon,

A few pages back many of us asked several questions about the Loyalty Keys suddenly being set permanent to an instrument, without any prior notice. Many of your most loyal users are now stuck with instruments we didn't understand would be forever, someone had even wasted two lifetime keys on SRX expansions because of this.

If you somehow missed all this: We kindly request that we are given a chance to carefully select which instruments we really want, would that be possible? A simple way would be to revert to the old behavior for a limited time. Yes? No?

Caine123 · Post by **Caine123** » Fri Jul 21, 2023 6:39 am

victoria wrote: Fri Jul 21, 2023 12:48 am
Jon at Roland wrote: Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:46 pm As always, feel free to reach out to me anytime with questions or concerns you may have.
Hi Jon,

A few pages back many of us asked several questions about the Loyalty Keys suddenly being set permanent to an instrument, without any prior notice. Many of your most loyal users are now stuck with instruments we didn't understand would be forever, someone had even wasted two lifetime keys on SRX expansions because of this.

If you somehow missed all this: We kindly request that we are given a chance to carefully select which instruments we really want, would that be possible? A simple way would be to revert to the old behavior for a limited time. Yes? No?

some companies tend to ignore/try to not reply to uncomfortable questions

why does a company switch to unfirendly userservices at all if the users are the highest priority?

not saying that roland does it, just saying "some companies" do it