If you had to stick to one DAW, which one would it be?
- KVRAF
- 7001 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon
me too.
i intially found reaper hard to use
but i stuck with it
and found solutions to problems
thanks to google and helpful folks
i intially found reaper hard to use
but i stuck with it
and found solutions to problems
thanks to google and helpful folks
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- KVRAF
- 5378 posts since 25 Jan, 2014 from The End of The World as We Knowit
I have used MuLab since 2014 because I naturally think that way. I like being able to musically explore a sample using ten different devices, and route audio/devices/plugins/tracks/etc just by drawing a line. I also find the main GUI to be a peaceful resting point in between deep dives to other levels.
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- KVRian
- 798 posts since 17 Nov, 2015 from Yuma
i dont use it, but if i had to stick with one its reaper. not even a close decision
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- KVRAF
- 37262 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from Scottish Borders
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- KVRian
- 539 posts since 15 Dec, 2012 from Waunakee, Wiscompton
I was a hardcore Cubase user from 2001 (a cracked SX2) to Cubase 7 Artist (first legit purchase) and then Cubase Pro up until 9.x, when I finally got tired of how buggy it was. Reason 9.5 & VST support was enough to pitch that Steinberg eLicenser in the trash, and go to Reason full time.
OK, I’m kidding about pitching the eLicenser, as I have some old computers that can still run Cubase, if I ever want to get to some old project files. I can’t sell the Cubase license, as it’s NFR due to buying Cubase 7 Artist EDU.
OK, I’m kidding about pitching the eLicenser, as I have some old computers that can still run Cubase, if I ever want to get to some old project files. I can’t sell the Cubase license, as it’s NFR due to buying Cubase 7 Artist EDU.
- KVRist
- 70 posts since 17 Jul, 2023
Honestly I don’t think I knew so many people use multiple DAWs. I got Ableton Lite with my first interface and just stuck with it. I’ve used Reaper and Logic when collaborating but the idea of learning another DAW deeply is just too daunting.
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- KVRian
- 539 posts since 15 Dec, 2012 from Waunakee, Wiscompton
Rewire from Reason to Cubase or Ableton probably was the first “dual DAW” situation for a lot of people on here.GuyaGuy wrote: Tue Jul 25, 2023 6:03 pm Honestly I don’t think I knew so many people use multiple DAWs. I got Ableton Lite with my first interface and just stuck with it. I’ve used Reaper and Logic when collaborating but the idea of learning another DAW deeply is just too daunting.
When I was jumping ship from Cubase, I was strongly considering switching to Ableton. The one hog preventing me from doing it was not wanting to learn a whole new way of thinking and doing things from what I knew in Cubase. Thankfully Reason 9.5 solve my Cubase problem.
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- KVRian
- 1045 posts since 21 Sep, 2009
I don't think you've missed anything, I think you understand exactly why some people love and some people hate Reaper. It's basically a fully customizable, personalized DAW - but only if you know what you want in your DAW, enjoy customizing things, and have the time to set everything up.EnGee wrote: Mon Jul 17, 2023 2:07 amI'm trying to not judge or conclude how the others are using Reaper really. For me, the only way I can be productive in Reaper is to spend a whole lots of time making my own shortcuts and my own workflow. This is however is a damn time consuming task! I need to list all what I need beforehand! So for me, it is like DIY DAW, which I'm not in that kind of things at all. However, I guess some users really like to do their own customised DAW. They see it as a bonus, but I see it unfinished DAW because it lacks a real workflow. If you try to see any tutorial, they immediately jump to how to do your own shortcuts! I see this as a flaw because all other DAWs have already most of what you want under your click or right click. Most of the setup of audio and hardware I can do in other DAWs without seeing any guide! In Reaper however, it is another world.BONES wrote: Sun Jul 16, 2023 11:50 pmI think it is more because there are a lot of noodlers around here who enjoy playing with the software, rather than getting anything done. If you'd never visited KVR, it's possible you'd never even know it existed. OTOH, you can walk into any music shop anywhere and buy Cubase, Studio One, ProTools, Live, Reason or even FL Studio, which makes a big difference. We here at KVR are not, by any stretch of the imagination, representative of the wider music industry.EnGee wrote: Fri Jul 14, 2023 9:24 pmI think the main reasons for it's popularity is that it's cpu efficient, small, fast to start and has all the functions in audio and midi.
Anyway, maybe I missed something!
And that's a fairly common type of person - I know loads of people that love tinkering with and customizing software so that it fits exactly how you work and how you think.
The other way to look at it, is that a big part of what you pay for in a DAW is a designed UI, workflow, and set of features. Reaper is cheaper (heh) because it cuts that part out. I want music making to feel as little like work as possible, and customizing menus, UI, etc. is excruciating for me. If it was something I enjoyed, I'd probably be all over Reaper. But for me, even setting up the preferences, VST menu, etc. in a fresh install of Cubase is a chore.
Reaper users will hate me, but I always secretly wished that Reaper would slowly develop into something with a crafted and ready-to-use workflow, so that I could get a fully-functional and easy-to-use DAW for $60. But that's just not what it is, or what the developers (or users) want it to be.
- KVRist
- 95 posts since 28 Dec, 2020
I started with trackers, used various versions of Cakewalk for years, sometimes FL or Ableton, and now I only use Bitwig. I will probably be using Bitwig indefinitely. I was always impressed at the capability of working quickly & creatively with Ableton but Bitwig is what really clicked for me. It has all the features I liked about Ableton but the interface for arranging & writing is way more intuitive. The ability to modulate literally anything you want to is so easy in Bitwig its ridiculous.
- KVRAF
- 4066 posts since 3 Jul, 2022
Feel the same. Was a kind of DAW geek, trying to navigate multiple until I found Bitwig. I don't feel I will look at another DAW ever again because I like its overall quality and it is largely feature-rich enough for me... And then obviously, the modulations features are just unmatched (not even close) by any other tool...milesdeem wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:07 pm I started with trackers, used various versions of Cakewalk for years, sometimes FL or Ableton, and now I only use Bitwig. I will probably be using Bitwig indefinitely. I was always impressed at the capability of working quickly & creatively with Ableton but Bitwig is what really clicked for me. It has all the features I liked about Ableton but the interface for arranging & writing is way more intuitive. The ability to modulate literally anything you want to is so easy in Bitwig its ridiculous.
- KVRist
- 95 posts since 28 Dec, 2020
For real, the modulators are unbelievably good, and even make some excellent plugins w/ modulation features unnecessary because it's so easy to modulate parameters in Bitwig. The built in devices are also so good that I probably would not have bothered to buy many of the FX I have bought, if I had Bitwig before.Jac459 wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:17 pm I don't feel I will look at another DAW ever again because I like its overall quality and it is largely feature-rich enough for me... And then obviously, the modulations features are just unmatched (not even close) by any other tool...
Bitwig feels to me more like a bridge between a more traditional DAW and Ableton Live, with the best of both.
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- KVRian
- 1077 posts since 3 Feb, 2015 from UK
I think the problem is that there is so much functionality packed under the hood that setting up one workflow to rule them all would be almost impossible. That said, it could do with some default toolbars out of the box (at a minimum) for some basic common editing tasks - and the context menus could be much better organised. They do tweak them from time to time, but still...they can be overwhelming, especially for new users. At least you can customise them too.concealed identity wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 8:04 am Reaper users will hate me, but I always secretly wished that Reaper would slowly develop into something with a crafted and ready-to-use workflow, so that I could get a fully-functional and easy-to-use DAW for $60. But that's just not what it is, or what the developers (or users) want it to be.
On the other hand, you only need to set it up the way you want it once and you're good to go. Prefs can be exported and imported for new installs, etc. My customisations were done over the course of many projects, adding or changing what I needed at the time and what I thought that I would need readily to hand in the future, it wasn't that difficult or onerous to do. It doesn't have to be endless tinkering, some Reaper users like to make music too. : )
Yes, there are some usability quirks (mostly workaroundable), and some fugly UI bits that are not themeable yet and so, for now at least, have to be accepted as part of the package, but that doesn't bother me so much as long as I can get the work done, and it's more than capable of that. I can always go play in Bitwig when I want a bit of pretty...
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- KVRist
- 302 posts since 25 Jun, 2005
I played with a Polyend Tracker a few weeks back. Oh man, that relit some nostalgia in me from Amiga days.milesdeem wrote: Thu Jul 27, 2023 4:07 pm I started with trackers, used various versions of Cakewalk for years, sometimes FL or Ableton, and now I only use Bitwig.
I'd successfully forgotten about it until now, I was trawling auction sites and reverb for a few days after to see if I could pick one up cheap, and now you've reminded me again!