Are Ohmforce plugins abandonware? (No customer service)

[DrGonzo]

Ohmfully

[gentleclockdivider]

Haematohm is very much an acquired taste for strong frequency pitching but I always loved it's really small true sweet spot -

True !
I also almost never use an excessive amount of frequency shifting , everything between 5- 50 HZ frequency shifting (50% dry-wet) is always great for some additinal movement.

[VariKusBrainZ]

Does anyone know what happened with the people behind Ohm? Did they start new companies or did they start working for other developers?

https://irisate.com/flip-overview/

[gentleclockdivider]

What's the difference between predatohm and homicide? Is it just gui?

Predatohm:
-has fewer distortion curves
- is not true stereo
-Only 1 feedback slider
-Doesn't crash
Ohmicide:
-More curves
-True stereo
-Feedback per band
-mid :side
-envelope follower etc..
-Sounds better
-Crashes a lot

[idoru97214]

Interesting aside, on the flip site listed above, the link to OhmStudio - heralded as their grand achievement - is dead.

[VitaminD]

Interesting aside, on the flip site listed above, the link to OhmStudio - heralded as their grand achievement - is dead.

That seems to be because they are now selling a framework called 'Flip' for collaborative editing, based off the ohmstudio. https://irisate.com/

[idoru97214]

Interesting aside, on the flip site listed above, the link to OhmStudio - heralded as their grand achievement - is dead.

That seems to be because they are now selling a framework called 'Flip' for collaborative editing, based off the ohmstudio. https://irisate.com/

It doesn't look like Flip is music specific. That whole long explanation and I have kind of no idea what it does except "enable collaboration." But I am slow...

[knowix]

I jokingly referenced OhmForce selling out to NI in the Fromager thread, but now would be a good time to start selling up if you're a 2000s era plugin dev who's getting tired of the business. The next ten years are going to be a very bumpy ride.

[VitaminD]

Interesting aside, on the flip site listed above, the link to OhmStudio - heralded as their grand achievement - is dead.

That seems to be because they are now selling a framework called 'Flip' for collaborative editing, based off the ohmstudio. https://irisate.com/

It doesn't look like Flip is music specific. That whole long explanation and I have kind of no idea what it does except "enable collaboration." But I am slow...

This is correct they seem to have developed the real time collaborative features through the ohmstudio and now have made it into a framework that is more generic for other non-audio types of real time collaborative uses.

I can only surmise this is a more lucrative venture than their awkwardly themed VST effects collection.

[VitaminD]

I jokingly referenced OhmForce selling out to NI in the Fromager thread, but now would be a good time to start selling up if you're a 2000s era plugin dev who's getting tired of the business. The next ten years are going to be a very bumpy ride.

I think this is accurate. We've reached a point where commercial recording platforms are very affordable and matured. What else they can do beyond more automation? And once that is matured in the next 2-10 years it is pretty much game over.


As a lengthy aside,

It is kind of odd to think that before 100-150 years ago most people didn't listen to music with instruments daily. There weren't many accessible recordings out in public, so if you wanted to listen to music it had to be performed then and there.

Probably lots of hymns and work chants/singing without much instruments though. I doubt many people had a lot of time to take it up anyways. Work and survival took up most folks time.

But today you can access millions of songs across a world of genres and styles instantly at any point in your day. Including full symphony orchestras, which only a select few every really heard way back.

And the technology has advanced to the point a single (skilled) person can create even full orchestral music anywhere they take their portable computer. It's pretty wild to think of the abilities we have in music today versus any other period in human history.

All this to ponder if music as we know it will eventually (many hundreds of years from now) eventually be discarded. As it becomes more abundant and easily generated, will it become less valued?

[Red_Force]

Well it's quite the thing to come back to KvR see what's been discussed and learn that you're dead.

I deserve that for sure. I ran into some personal health leading to you know... issues. The company had. Ohmstudio demise was a general burn out. We started to lag on maintenance of our internal tools, while remote work damaged our inner process in ways that we failed to immediately (or even... reasonably quickly) measure. Resulting in people having been let down.
For which we felt bad, which didn't make it easier to go back and fix it. Maybe you've experienced that. Being overwhelmed in your own failures. That was me in the last years.

That being said, the picture given here seems a bit exaggerated. While it's true one important dev and funder (Laurent, aka Plum Force) has left the company, most others have not. And Simon replaced Laurent, and it was a challenge especially considering we kept having working on our B2B ventures that kept the company running.

Still Simon loves plugins, I do as you'll see very soon with indeed Frohmager. We've been doing stuff. And not only plugin btw.

Similarly, some support suffered, and as I said in the Infinity thread we're very sorry for that and again, if you paid and didn't use, we will find ways to refund you no matter how late. But some support was dealt with at all points and it has to be said Infinity doesn't generate that much support vs its sales (or say mac stuff) so clearly it works out of the box for a lot of people.

As I mentioned it turns our our early access buyers were especially punished bc some alpha they had didn't clean up properly which means subsequent "clean" build would not work.

I've decided that the "hiding behind the scene" didn't work for me and draged me down mentally. I'd be much more at ease with a very direct conversation. Rant what you will, ask what you will, I'll tell you what I know and help how I can.

[revvy]

Good luck Red_Force, hope all works out well

[dayjob]

wishing you good health and getting through this drama and getting all the things lined up so you can do whatever it is you need to do with less stress and more joy.

[Shabdahbriah]

wishing you good health and getting through this drama and getting all the things lined up so you can do whatever it is you need to do with less stress and more joy.

+1 ... I've had all of your plugins since DirectX days, (except the studio thingy) and look forward to what ever you come up with in the future. Near or far. ... Persevere!

[DrGonzo]

Well it's quite the thing to come back to KvR see what's been discussed and learn that you're dead.

Undead? Zohmbie?

Good to hear from you. You have been missed.