How hard is it to play Guitar?
- KVRAF
- 7001 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon
guitar players tend to just stick with guitar or guitar-like thingies
players like jimmy page, jeff beck, eric clapton, jimmy hendrix, etc
keyboard players tend to play other instruments
players like john paul jones, paul maccartney, john lennon, etc
the ramones have no keyboardist?
punks don't like complexity?
keyboard must therefore be more complex?
guitar must therefore be simpler?
and easy to play?
if there are punk bands that plays complex music
then those bands are not "real" punk bands?
they are just really prog bands or who knows what in disguise?
players like jimmy page, jeff beck, eric clapton, jimmy hendrix, etc
keyboard players tend to play other instruments
players like john paul jones, paul maccartney, john lennon, etc
the ramones have no keyboardist?
punks don't like complexity?
keyboard must therefore be more complex?
guitar must therefore be simpler?
and easy to play?
if there are punk bands that plays complex music
then those bands are not "real" punk bands?
they are just really prog bands or who knows what in disguise?
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/log ... e-Premisesharryupbabble wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:27 pm guitar players tend to just stick with guitar or guitar-like thingies
players like jimmy page, jeff beck, eric clapton, jimmy hendrix, etc
keyboard players tend to play other instruments
players like john paul jones, paul maccartney, john lennon, etc
the ramones have no keyboardist?
punks don't like complexity?
keyboard must therefore be more complex?
guitar must therefore be simpler?
and easy to play?
if there are punk bands that plays complex music
then those bands are not "real" punk bands?
they are just really prog bands or who knows what in disguise?
- addled muppet weed
- 111237 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
illogical more like in harrys case 
- Beware the Quoth
- 35414 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair
Golden brown, texture like sun
Lays me down, Harry's daft mind runs
Throughout the night
No need to fight
He's just a clown with golden brown
12/8 -> 13/8 ya f**ker.
Lays me down, Harry's daft mind runs
Throughout the night
No need to fight
He's just a clown with golden brown
12/8 -> 13/8 ya f**ker.
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"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
"In some cases there is an object called red that contains everything that is red. In much the same way a pot is a plate.
Red is Red and anything that is Red is an object, a class in itself or a real thing if you prefer"
- KVRAF
- 11950 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Someplace else
That's more or less in line with my thoughts, with the exception of fingerstyle or classical, where you have the thumb acting independently from the other right-hand fingers, as well as the left-hand acrobatics.pekbro wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:40 amIMO the piano is quite a bit harder to learn and play than the guitar. For me the biggest hurdleBeatbender wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:14 amAgreed! Most people have tried playing guitar at least once in their life. How many people actively still doing it? Very few.tapper mike wrote: Sun Aug 06, 2023 3:55 pm One in One Hundred people who pick up the guitar are still playing after a year. I wish I could find stats on what happens after that year.
I wonder what would be the stats for other string instruments or perhaps relatively easier for beginners like piano? Probably more people will stick to it.
with the piano was two separate and complex melodies on each hand, where on the guitar that doesn't
really happen as much unless your playing classical guitar or something, and even then. It's not
that it doesn't happen, but I notice the majority of amateur players I've heard, don't seem to concern
themselves with individual notes a lot times on the guitar.![]()
I can do very basic things with Travis Picking, but I'll never get proficient at it unless I woodshed for about a year, and I just don't have that kind of drive at this point.
If I were just starting out, I would take lessons with a competent teacher, and learn to use my right hand right off the bat.
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- Boss Lovin' DR
- 14312 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from the grimness of yorkshire
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- KVRAF
- 4075 posts since 27 Aug, 2004
"Anyone can play guitar" -- Thom Yorke
Even if the piano player can't play, keep the party going.
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- KVRAF
- 11950 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Someplace else
Because, being an autodidact means learning certain things in less than optimal ways, and once those patterns get ingrained, it,s difficult to break them and reset them.
“The Generals sat, and the lines on the map, moved from side to side.”
― Pink Floyd
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- KVRist
- 378 posts since 8 Sep, 2005 from Seattle
I think if a person really engages with guitar and finds the right resources for how to play they can achieve quite a lot in a short amount of time and have a lot of fun. But if you're just adrift trying to pick stuff up by chance with no real drive or concrete goals, and if you haven't conditioned yourself to effective practice habits, I think it can be very discouraging.
Many musicians struggle with negative thoughts. Like athletes, we have to actively work on healthy cognition because the job of learning the instrument often involves identifying points where our playing breaks down and addressing issues.
Many musicians struggle with negative thoughts. Like athletes, we have to actively work on healthy cognition because the job of learning the instrument often involves identifying points where our playing breaks down and addressing issues.
- addled muppet weed
- 111237 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
if the metal strings hurt your fingers, try starting out on air guitar, just to get the fretboard and chord shapes learned 
- KVRAF
- 2548 posts since 7 Jul, 2003 from Huntington, WV
Yeah, air guitar is an easy choice.vurt wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:46 pm if the metal strings hurt your fingers, try starting out on air guitar, just to get the fretboard and chord shapes learned
I tried air cajon once, but I looked ridiculous and I kept falling on my ass!
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- addled muppet weed
- 111237 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
a certain x president, likes to play air accordion ive noticed.McLilith wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:59 pmYeah, air guitar is an easy choice. I tried air cajon once, but I looked ridiculous and I kept falling on my ass!vurt wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:46 pm if the metal strings hurt your fingers, try starting out on air guitar, just to get the fretboard and chord shapes learned![]()
- KVRAF
- 2548 posts since 7 Jul, 2003 from Huntington, WV
Sadly, that's probably his single greatest contribution to mankind.vurt wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:00 pma certain x president, likes to play air accordion ive noticed.McLilith wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:59 pmYeah, air guitar is an easy choice. I tried air cajon once, but I looked ridiculous and I kept falling on my ass!vurt wrote: Mon Aug 07, 2023 6:46 pm if the metal strings hurt your fingers, try starting out on air guitar, just to get the fretboard and chord shapes learned![]()
Or at least, it's one of his least offensive!
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- KVRAF
- 2544 posts since 14 Sep, 2003 from Essex
Hi
18 months into learning to play the Guitar and I would say that the question is wrong!
The question simply doesn't signify any level of ability, so my friend who jammed with me back in the day with a 3 string acoustic whilst I played drums was 'playing' the guitar - did he even know the names of the 3 remaining strings?
Having purchased my second guitar recently (a Harley Benton SC550) I am going through a phase of thinking/feeling that some guitars are really quite a piece of mechanical engineering and somewhat cumbersome, with a set of heavier gauge strings it really can be a challenge just to practice for an hour...
So gleaming some sounds out of a guitar is pretty easy, but if your wondering if gaining some level of competence (let alone excellence) is easy I would say no, it comes down to years of (almost) daily practice - I like playing Reggae chords/progressions and If I continue with my 1-4 hours a day, I expect to be somewhere around kinda competent in a couple of years time, at the moment I can play a fair selection of chords with varying levels of screw up's, theory knowledge is coming hand in hand with the snail pace general progression and I don't have to 'force' myself to practice.
You have to be realistic in what it is you want to accomplish I suppose...
18 months into learning to play the Guitar and I would say that the question is wrong!
The question simply doesn't signify any level of ability, so my friend who jammed with me back in the day with a 3 string acoustic whilst I played drums was 'playing' the guitar - did he even know the names of the 3 remaining strings?
Having purchased my second guitar recently (a Harley Benton SC550) I am going through a phase of thinking/feeling that some guitars are really quite a piece of mechanical engineering and somewhat cumbersome, with a set of heavier gauge strings it really can be a challenge just to practice for an hour...
So gleaming some sounds out of a guitar is pretty easy, but if your wondering if gaining some level of competence (let alone excellence) is easy I would say no, it comes down to years of (almost) daily practice - I like playing Reggae chords/progressions and If I continue with my 1-4 hours a day, I expect to be somewhere around kinda competent in a couple of years time, at the moment I can play a fair selection of chords with varying levels of screw up's, theory knowledge is coming hand in hand with the snail pace general progression and I don't have to 'force' myself to practice.
You have to be realistic in what it is you want to accomplish I suppose...
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- KVRian
- 1020 posts since 4 Jun, 2006
I started playing as therapy after an accident left me with a semi paralyzed right arm.
When I first started, I couldn't grip a pick properly; I had this pick thing that held about 7 or 8 picks stuck to the body of the guitar. My friend told me that jamming with me quickened his reflexes from ducking out of the way of flying picks; in the early days, I think I went through every pick in the holder when I jammed a 5 min song.
When I first started, I couldn't grip a pick properly; I had this pick thing that held about 7 or 8 picks stuck to the body of the guitar. My friend told me that jamming with me quickened his reflexes from ducking out of the way of flying picks; in the early days, I think I went through every pick in the holder when I jammed a 5 min song.