Are Ohmforce plugins abandonware? (No customer service)

[Red_Force]

@pough
Yup, one of the thing I can't wait to update. A lot of care was put in the new preset browsing experience in Infinity.

@VitaminD
I am not implying anything. Support is complicated. If a problem is had by several user it's one thing, if it is by just one it is one another. It doesn't necessarily mean you did anything wrong. Cubase way of black listing plugin (although I suspect you have a different issue) for instance is partially random (the term escapes me, the method is also use in antivirus) and it can be blocked here and work there. And of course when one thing doesn't work, the faulty code can be just as easily in the DAW that in the plugin etc. I don't know all the quirks of every DAW and when I do, it's thanks to forums and user feedback.

In your position I would like to know if it's a problem other users have. AFAIK it's not. I may be wrong.

Your criticism, as well as your hope and criteria for success are shared.

[SamDi]

I am so amazed. Waiting since years to get Ohmicide on sale and now it‘s for free. Thank you very much. It‘s still an amazing and unique plugin after all these years.

[idoru97214]

Yes, Ohmicide is amazing. I feel encouraged by the dev popping in here. OhmBoyz was never beaten IMO, even with so many creative delays on the market now. I see Infinity has a sequencer. Love that in Bloom - which actually IS abandonware.

I'm going to crossgrade on Monday (next day off) to Infinity. I'll report thoughts and feelings.

[gentleclockdivider]

I am so amazed. Waiting since years to get Ohmicide on sale and now it‘s for free. Thank you very much. It‘s still an amazing and unique plugin after all these years.

So all these years you couldn’t save some cash to actually buy it ?

[SamDi]

I am so amazed. Waiting since years to get Ohmicide on sale and now it‘s for free. Thank you very much. It‘s still an amazing and unique plugin after all these years.

So all these years you couldn’t save some cash to actually buy it ?

I am aware of it just since 2 years or so. And since it was kind of abandonware since years before, the full price wasn‘t worth it to me. Furthermore I do buy all music SW on sales or used by principle. Can not remember if I ever bought anything with full price.

[idoru97214]

I sent a support ticket in on August 15 and was answered with a solution that worked on August 17, so it looks like Ohm Force is alive. I am enjoying ohm boys infinity. It's pretty great.

[Stopani]

Seems like Ohm Force is only developing 2 of their products and ditching the rest.

Their plugins are still very popular. What stops another developer buying the code and continuing to update these plugins?

[plexuss]

Seems like Ohm Force is only developing 2 of their products and ditching the rest.

Their plugins are still very popular. What stops another developer buying the code and continuing to update these plugins?

Some possibilities: Old unsupported code-bases and frameworks, for example. and/or code that requires support of people no longer available (eg. 2C Audio). Sometimes code needs to be completely rewritten in order to support modern tech. It generally takes a lot of added effort and vision to code in a way that mitigates these issues. "Tech Debt" as it's called is a whole ball of wax that can even get out of hand for the largest more sophisticated shops. And those are juts a few of the reasons....

[Stopani]

Seems like Ohm Force is only developing 2 of their products and ditching the rest.

Their plugins are still very popular. What stops another developer buying the code and continuing to update these plugins?

Some possibilities: Old unsupported code-bases and frameworks, for example. and/or code that requires support of people no longer available (eg. 2C Audio). Sometimes code needs to be completely rewritten in order to support modern tech. It generally takes a lot of added effort and vision to code in a way that mitigates these issues. "Tech Debt" as it's called is a whole ball of wax that can even get out of hand for the largest more sophisticated shops. And those are juts a few of the reasons....

Thanks for your reply, that makes loads of sense

[dj.anti.matter]

I deserve that for sure. I ran into some personal health leading to you know... issues. The company had. Ohmstudio demise was a general burn out. We started to lag on maintenance of our internal tools, while remote work damaged our inner process in ways that we failed to immediately (or even... reasonably quickly) measure. Resulting in people having been let down.
For which we felt bad, which didn't make it easier to go back and fix it. Maybe you've experienced that. Being overwhelmed in your own failures. That was me in the last years.

That being said, the picture given here seems a bit exaggerated. While it's true one important dev and funder (Laurent, aka Plum Force) has left the company, most others have not. And Simon replaced Laurent, and it was a challenge especially considering we kept having working on our B2B ventures that kept the company running.

Still Simon loves plugins, I do as you'll see very soon with indeed Frohmager. We've been doing stuff. And not only plugin btw.

I really hope you guys will get everything together and provide proper updates for Ohmicide & QuadFrohmage and make them native for Silicon Macs.

I've been burned recently by several companies who suddenly dropped development for their plugins(Notably NI, Access, AudioDamage, and now OhmForce) withoiut any communication or even an apology. Thanks for at least explaining the situation but I want to see some real effort in restoring user confidence here.

[dayjob]

I really hope you guys will get everything together and provide proper updates for Ohmicide & QuadFrohmage and make them native for Silicon Macs.

i would not expect updates to any of the now legacy plug ins since they've been made free and marked as legacy software. unless you are talking about new plug ins that take those ideas and develop them into something new???

all their old plug ins are free to download. they're currently working on eurorack modules and that seems to be the focus. knowing how that goes, i'd be surprised if there's any new software that comes out any time soon. developing hardware products is a pretty time demanding intense thing that leaves little room for anything else for small manufacturers. i wish them luck in the hardware endeavors. it's a very competitive market. hopefully it works out for them and the company can continue to do interesting things. maybe somewhere down the line some new plug ins will make their way into the world.. but i wouldn't hold my breath. there's only so much time in any given day.

[Shabdahbriah]

^^^ that ^^^

[jacques81]

Their plugins are still top-notch, says a lot about them, their filters are excellent.

[zerocrossing]

Seems like Ohm Force is only developing 2 of their products and ditching the rest.

Their plugins are still very popular. What stops another developer buying the code and continuing to update these plugins?

Their plugins are not very popular. They’re well regarded with a small but vocal group of old timers, but popular? No.

[dayjob]

Their plugins are still top-notch, says a lot about them, their filters are excellent.

yeah.. if they had updated existing plug ins to be compatible w/modern OS/apple silicon etc (even for a small fee) i think we'd all be pleased but that ship has sailed. i think the OG ohmforce plug ins are excellent still. the ohmboyz delay and all the weird things the others can do have a really great sound to them and offer some unique abilities and modulations built in.. as we know.

if the eurorack stuff is successful maybe we'll get some software again at some point.. but it's a tough thing to do as there's only so much time and development is all consuming in the hardware world and there's a lot to manage with parts and prototypes etc..