DrivenByMoss: Bitwig extension for many hardware controllers (version 26.6.1)

[moss]

Hello Moss,

With using Launchpad Pro mk3 and Launchkey mk3 simultaneously and launching a scene makes the clips belonging to that scene light up green slowly flashing on the launchkey. The clips on the Launchpad Pro mk3 will flash but keep their original clip colour. This is when i use the Drivenbymoss scripts for both devices.

When i use the Launchpad Pro mk3 Bitwig script instead of the drivenbymoss script the clips work as expected on the both devices and they turn out green flashing when launched, can this somehow be corrected in the drivenbymoss script?

It is not a deal breaker i will use the bitwig script meanwhile for the Launchpad Pro mk3. But it would be cool to use the both devices with the drivenbymoss script.

I feel somehow being an ass by pointing bugs to you, it is in no way intended for complaining about this awesome piece of work!

Danke schön,

Questionaire.

Thanks for reporting! Will be fixed in the next update!

I think i found another bug with the launchpad pro mk3 script. When you switch over from session to note the way the keyboard/pads are represented shift from drumpad to keyboard etc. with every move from note to session and back it shifts everytime to another view representation.
I would expect that it would remember the representation when you left note and return from session to note.

I dont think this is intended?

No, it should be remembered but seems to work fine for me. Can you give some exact steps to reproduce it?

Simply push session button then note and then back session and then again note makes the view change from full keys to keyboard view to yellow drumpads to full keys to keyboard view etc. etc.

I'm on linux but that shouldnot matter i think. Is it maybe because i did not update to latest firmware 1.2.2 ? I'm still on 1.2.1

I have updated to 1.2.2 now and still the same behaviour

Ah, only happens on the Pro. Will be fixed in the next update!

[moss]

I posted this on another thread, but wanted to post here for visibility to Moss...

Would it make sense to have the Project Remotes and Track Remotes be driven by modes (like the Track/Volume/Pan/Device Modes) instead of their own entry in the Generic Flexi controller?

This way, the same buttons/controls could be applied to the Project and Track remotes instead of requiring their own configuration.

I was thinking about that and thought there might be too much modes to switch between them.

Strangely, if I switch focus on the Project Remotes in the UI by clicking on the remote panel, I can control the remote values with the same 8 control currently assigned to something else (Mode Set Values 1-8). However, I cannot return to the device panel unless I click on it in the UI.

Yes, that is a weird behaviour which I already reported to Bitwig as well but not sure if this will be changed.

[moss]

Is it possible to have the clip view in the screen (and trigger scenes with the wheel) while keeping note view on the pads? So you can play notes and also trigger a scene with the wheel using the display?

Currently, not. But I was thinking about it as well. Will take note.

Ok, I really hope you can add that like Ableton did. I've often found that I want to trigger scenes or clips at the same time as trigger one shots from a drum racks for example, or just play an instrument in real time while switching scenes. You either have to stop playing the instrument, switch over to clips view, trigger the scene ahead of time (quantized) and quickly switch back over to the track with the one shots or instrument, which is annoying, or you need two controllers. This ability to fire off a scene while you are in a play mode is really useful.

In some play modes scenes are available as well. Also you can switch temporarily to session mode by keeping the Session button pressed, when you release it you are back to the previous play mode.

[moss]

I noticed that the scales are not working as expected. Some notes that are not part of the selected scale will be triggered by the pads.

Seom more info please.

Also in MPE mode the notes are off sometimes. For instance in chromatic mode when I slide five pads to the right I sometimes get a fourth and sometimes a third interval.

That's something I need to look into a bit more but not sure if this can be changed.

[moss]

Hi Moss,

First, thank you so much for the wonderful work you provide for the whole Bitwig community. On my side, I can run the Push 1 smoothly during live sessions and the Icon Platform M+ in the studio which is really, really great! I also appreciate the extensive documentation as well as the regular new feature integration. It always goes in the right directions without braking the workflow.

I have a request about the write mode on the Icon Platform M+. As it does not have any Touch mode button, it is currently impossible to enable this mode from the controller. Indeed, the write button enables the write mode for all tracks that have record mode engaged. This is pretty problematic when you want to overwrite an automation only for the tracks from which you touch the faders and not the others.

In order to set the touch mode by default, I have produced this hack.

To avoid this hack, it would be nice to have an option in the settings to choose the default behavior of the write button, "write" or "touch" for example. I have tried to implement it but I am afraid my Java knowledge and my understanding of the architecture of the extension are too limited so far. So, do you think this feature could me implemented in a way it doesn't have conflicts with other controller settings? Or maybe you have a better idea?

BTW, I have just sent you this PR to allow the use of the general Java environment on Debian based systems - including Ubuntu - coming from the official JRE package.

Cheers,
Guillaume

I am sorry but I do not want to add more workarounds for this poorly mistreated protocol. If you want to go the icon way you would need to get the Platform B as well. Or you could simply put the function on a keyboard command.

[ehgdae]

Hi Jürgen,
Great job for the SL MkIII
Just one suggestion (or question) : in Scale mode, the keyboard lights lit correctly, but when I go to inControl mode , the lights go back to "normal" mode. Best where if the lights continue to show the Scale. Is it possible ? Thank you.

[moss]

Hi Moss
thank you for you work
Everything is working great so far except for clip selection, even at the lowest pad velocity the clips are always triggered to play instead of selection, I'm using a Launchpad X and and a Launchkey mini mk3, both have the same issue.

I'm using Windows 10, Bitwig 5.0.4, DrivenByMoss 21.0.0, the latest Novation USB drivers and also tried its three previous versions

It is currently not supported. Previously it was on long press, which I had to remove to support the Bitwig 5 alternate function triggers.

[moss]

Hi Jürgen,
Great job for the SL MkIII
Just one suggestion (or question) : in Scale mode, the keyboard lights lit correctly, but when I go to inControl mode , the lights go back to "normal" mode. Best where if the lights continue to show the Scale. Is it possible ? Thank you.

You can enable the lightguide in the settings.

[Hempmaster]

Hi, Jürgen! I need some help with Open Stage Control template.
How can I move those buttons to their supposed place?
Also, what's the best resource to learn how to build controllers in Open Stage Control?

photo_2023-07-25_20-57-08.jpg

[ehgdae]

Hi Jürgen,
Great job for the SL MkIII
Just one suggestion (or question) : in Scale mode, the keyboard lights lit correctly, but when I go to inControl mode , the lights go back to "normal" mode. Best where if the lights continue to show the Scale. Is it possible ? Thank you.

You can enable the lightguide in the settings.

I'm sorry, but the lightguide is ON in the settings. The lights are correct out of the InControl, but do not respect the scale inside the InControl mode. Is there another "setting" ??

lightguide.jpg

[moss]

Hi, Jürgen! I need some help with Open Stage Control template.
How can I move those buttons to their supposed place?
Also, what's the best resource to learn how to build controllers in Open Stage Control?

photo_2023-07-25_20-57-08.jpg

You need to optimize the layout for the smaller display. I cannot give support for Open Stage Control but I learned it it from reading their online manual.

[moss]

Hi Jürgen,
Great job for the SL MkIII
Just one suggestion (or question) : in Scale mode, the keyboard lights lit correctly, but when I go to inControl mode , the lights go back to "normal" mode. Best where if the lights continue to show the Scale. Is it possible ? Thank you.

You can enable the lightguide in the settings.

I'm sorry, but the lightguide is ON in the settings. The lights are correct out of the InControl, but do not respect the scale inside the InControl mode. Is there another "setting" ??


lightguide.jpg

Do you have the latest Firmware installed?
It works fine for me. Even if I disable the DrivenByMoss light guide it comes up with the hardware lights. Only thing is that it is off for audio tracks.

[Hempmaster]

Hi, Jürgen! I need some help with Open Stage Control template.
How can I move those buttons to their supposed place?
Also, what's the best resource to learn how to build controllers in Open Stage Control?

photo_2023-07-25_20-57-08.jpg

You need to optimize the layout for the smaller display. I cannot give support for Open Stage Control but I learned it it from reading their online manual.

Small screen optimization. Got it Thank you, Jürgen

[ehgdae]

Hi Jürgen,
Great job for the SL MkIII
Just one suggestion (or question) : in Scale mode, the keyboard lights lit correctly, but when I go to inControl mode , the lights go back to "normal" mode. Best where if the lights continue to show the Scale. Is it possible ? Thank you.

You can enable the lightguide in the settings.

I'm sorry, but the lightguide is ON in the settings. The lights are correct out of the InControl, but do not respect the scale inside the InControl mode. Is there another "setting" ??


lightguide.jpg

Do you have the latest Firmware installed?
It works fine for me. Even if I disable the DrivenByMoss light guide it comes up with the hardware lights. Only thing is that it is off for audio tracks.

Yes, up to date :
- Bitwig 5.0.4
- Firmware SL 1.44.0 (no update available)
- Moss 21.0.0 (09.08.2023)

In inControl, the lightguide goes back to standard (white keys) but the filtering for the scale is correct.

As you can seen : https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gd9PaO ... sp=sharing

[ehgdae]

PS : notice, it is exactly the same behaviour with Reaper (with "enable lightguide ON")