KVR Audio

Gavincoolguy · Post by **Gavincoolguy** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 8:42 am

When I picked up Ableton and decided to tackle learning a DAW I also grabbed a Launch Control XL. I know a lot of people don't find much use for one but for me it is everything. I use it for device control, automation and mixing. I was considering purchasing a second unit to dedicate to device control as it is a big headache to try to do it all on one. I wonder if there is a better or more "pro" grade device that offers that least what the Launch Control offers as far as Ableton integration is concerned and possible better faders and knobs. I don't dislike really anything about the unit. I've never had endless encoders so I can't say what is better but I can afford better if it exists so I thought I would ask. Thank you.

electro · Post by **electro** » Mon Aug 14, 2023 7:19 pm

I hear Bitwig is like Ableton with lower CPU and better stability. Also the XL can be used outside of Ableton with other DAWS.

otwer22 · Post by **otwer22** » Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:29 am

I have a lunchpad pro and have been eying the launch control as an addition. I think they would complement each other. As I get to know the Launchpad more it has the ability to do what the launch control but in a different way. You don’t get the knobs and sliders for the tactile feeling when adjusting the parameters.

SebAV · Post by **SebAV** » Tue Aug 15, 2023 10:24 am

I’m also eying the Control XL and I don’t think there’s anything « better » in its class. Akai APC mini looks to aim at the same tasks but not as elegantly. I think of 2 controllers which could be better : a Control XL mk3 (update as they have done with launchpads and keys, and other « surprises » I can’t think of) and a controller based on the Circuits designs (this one could add an arpegiator and a step sequencer !). Alas they don’t exist yet.

Gavincoolguy · Post by **Gavincoolguy** » Tue Aug 15, 2023 12:18 pm

Well if you do end up choosing a launch control I bought a refurbished unit from Novation last black Friday and it's been working just fine since. The discount was pretty good. I do also use a launchpad and launchkey and they all work fine together.

otwer22 wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 1:29 am I have a lunchpad pro and have been eying the launch control as an addition. I think they would complement each other. As I get to know the Launchpad more it has the ability to do what the launch control but in a different way. You don’t get the knobs and sliders for the tactile feeling when adjusting the parameters.

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Sun Aug 20, 2023 2:59 am

For better faders you have to go for much more expensive stuff, and I am not sure if it is worth it, there is the Faderport 16 and 8.

there is a couple of options like the nektar panorama and the Studiologic SL bu they are not supported by Ableton out of the box.

replicant X · Post by **replicant X** » Mon Aug 21, 2023 1:12 pm

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otwer22 · Post by **otwer22** » Mon Aug 21, 2023 4:25 pm

But at a very steep price. 1k for the base and 2k for dawless. No thanks.

rod_zero · Post by **rod_zero** » Tue Aug 29, 2023 4:27 pm

Search for a Push 2 used, they are going cheap

Launch Control XL, anything better?