One Synth Challenge #173: Bucket Pops and Bucket One by Full Bucket Music (exponent1 wins!)
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Yadrichik_Chaya Yadrichik_Chaya https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=531824
- KVRian
- 701 posts since 5 Oct, 2021
Voted
Fusion
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Yadrichik_Chaya Yadrichik_Chaya https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=531824
- KVRian
- 701 posts since 5 Oct, 2021
The 1:27-1:36 part of Sleepless in Germany Part 6 over this beat! 
Fusion
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- KVRist
- 54 posts since 8 May, 2022
Brainbeat brought up the question of "covering" in a comment on my Soundcloud page, and I thought it was worth repeating my reply here, to see how others feel about this sometimes tricky subject:
"Accused of covering "There's a Hole in my Bucket??" Oh, the shame. I did wonder about that, but it's common in modern music to do variations on old and classical tunes. Beethoven's Pathetique is famously plonked into Midnight Blue, and Billy Joel had a piece of it too. Whiter Shade of Pale and a good chunk of the Beatles playlist are based on classical pieces, but not considered covers. So I took my chances - I couldn't resist making the musical joke. Anyway, given the lack of mixing, it doesn't stand a chance of getting in the prizes, so hopefully the question is moot."
"Accused of covering "There's a Hole in my Bucket??" Oh, the shame. I did wonder about that, but it's common in modern music to do variations on old and classical tunes. Beethoven's Pathetique is famously plonked into Midnight Blue, and Billy Joel had a piece of it too. Whiter Shade of Pale and a good chunk of the Beatles playlist are based on classical pieces, but not considered covers. So I took my chances - I couldn't resist making the musical joke. Anyway, given the lack of mixing, it doesn't stand a chance of getting in the prizes, so hopefully the question is moot."
- KVRian
- 613 posts since 29 Nov, 2019
In this case the quote is quite lengthy and blatantly obvious, so I can see why Brainbeat would bring it up. Anyway, this whole "look how smartly I can quote other peoples work without it becoming a cover" thing is becoming a bit tiresome now, imho. OSC partcipants are clearly asked to come up with original work. Why not just do so and avoid any zero fun discussion ? It's really not that hard. And not particularly restrictive either. There are other places in which these things can be be done. Maybe try the Music Café ?spridgeon wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:44 pm Brainbeat brought up the question of "covering" in a comment on my Soundcloud page, and I thought it was worth repeating my reply here, to see how others feel about this sometimes tricky subject:
"Accused of covering "There's a Hole in my Bucket??" ..."
Which is also a fine place to be for anyone can't live without sounddesign by external effect.
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- KVRist
- 168 posts since 3 May, 2021
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- KVRian
- 927 posts since 13 Jan, 2013 from United States
Voted. Lots of good tracks.
Thanks to BJ and Richard, as usual, for holding OSC together!
Thanks to BJ and Richard, as usual, for holding OSC together!
- KVRian
- 513 posts since 4 Jan, 2022
To answer some comments on SoundCloud in one go:
Yes my song structure is chaotic - and increasingly so. Doctor Entropy is having his evil ways
Yes it gets quite silly!
The retro synths made me think of Crockets Theme from Miami Vice, so I thought about an 80s duo - but also Scientists from the Victorian times that explored the concept of Entropy (which I think about a lot).
Entropy is thermodynamic concept. The universe is running from a low entropy (high order) to a high entropy (high disorder) state.
At a small scale - there is no arrow of time. Atoms just bounce off each other. If you play the film backwards it looks similar. But on a large -human - scale - the past definitely looks different to the future. Eggs fall onto the floor and smash into disorderly pieces. You never see this happen in reverse. But the reverse IS possible - just extremely unlikely.
The big question is - why is the past lower entropy than the future? It's a good thing it is - else it would be a very boring universe in equilibrium where nothing happens (like life). This puzzled scientists like Boltzmann and Gibbs in the 1800s. They did not know about the Big Bang model.
ANYWAY - I recorded me playing about with the rhythm buttons on Pops - pressing buttons fairly randomly like a child would. And with increasing frequency as the song progresses. And often with multiple rhythms selected at once. And sometimes half way through a bar!
I then gave myself the challenge of writing music to fit this increasingly chaotic blueprint. And also to come up with a story to fit
It's silly and I don't expect it was to everyone's taste - but I think I made a few people smile.
Mr S.
Yes my song structure is chaotic - and increasingly so. Doctor Entropy is having his evil ways
The retro synths made me think of Crockets Theme from Miami Vice, so I thought about an 80s duo - but also Scientists from the Victorian times that explored the concept of Entropy (which I think about a lot).
Entropy is thermodynamic concept. The universe is running from a low entropy (high order) to a high entropy (high disorder) state.
At a small scale - there is no arrow of time. Atoms just bounce off each other. If you play the film backwards it looks similar. But on a large -human - scale - the past definitely looks different to the future. Eggs fall onto the floor and smash into disorderly pieces. You never see this happen in reverse. But the reverse IS possible - just extremely unlikely.
The big question is - why is the past lower entropy than the future? It's a good thing it is - else it would be a very boring universe in equilibrium where nothing happens (like life). This puzzled scientists like Boltzmann and Gibbs in the 1800s. They did not know about the Big Bang model.
ANYWAY - I recorded me playing about with the rhythm buttons on Pops - pressing buttons fairly randomly like a child would. And with increasing frequency as the song progresses. And often with multiple rhythms selected at once. And sometimes half way through a bar!
I then gave myself the challenge of writing music to fit this increasingly chaotic blueprint. And also to come up with a story to fit
It's silly and I don't expect it was to everyone's taste - but I think I made a few people smile.
Mr S.
Captain Silverpants
- KVRist
- 123 posts since 15 Oct, 2021 from Spain
Voted! lots of great tracks
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- KVRist
- 230 posts since 8 Dec, 2015
I agree to ELEX almost fully, except to "zero fun". In this round we had two work with two (!) full buckets and Spridgeon hassles musically with an empty bucket. I like this humor! And those who don't may simply score this track lower. So I, for one, would turn a blind eye in this case!ELEX wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:48 pmIn this case the quote is quite lengthy and blatantly obvious, so I can see why Brainbeat would bring it up. Anyway, this whole "look how smartly I can quote other peoples work without it becoming a cover" thing is becoming a bit tiresome now, imho. OSC partcipants are clearly asked to come up with original work. Why not just do so and avoid any zero fun discussion ?spridgeon wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:44 pm Brainbeat brought up the question of "covering" in a comment on my Soundcloud page, and I thought it was worth repeating my reply here, to see how others feel about this sometimes tricky subject:
"Accused of covering "There's a Hole in my Bucket??" ..."
- KVRist
- 181 posts since 10 Jan, 2018
Join the club: I got criticized for how I make music and tried helping others, so I left the Discord and stopped saying anything that wasn't necessary. Can't criticize what isn't said, right? Make my entry, post it, wait for results - that's it.BRAMFX wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 3:44 pm voted. people are calling me a troll. this makes me angry. i would like a formal apology from all of you.
New tracks: https://linktr.ee/neukatalyst
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- KVRist
- 54 posts since 8 May, 2022
I've done a few OSCs, and always carefully followed the rules. On this occasion, I couldn't resist making a musical joke to hopefully give some folks a laugh. I didn't expect it to be considered a 'serious' attempt at a cover, just a bit of fun, and wasn't aware that the cover issue had been thrashed out on this group before (I haven't been on it for very long.) Anyway, I'll try to put the lid back on the can of worms and avoid controversy in the future.ELEX wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 7:48 pmIn this case the quote is quite lengthy and blatantly obvious, so I can see why Brainbeat would bring it up. Anyway, this whole "look how smartly I can quote other peoples work without it becoming a cover" thing is becoming a bit tiresome now, imho. OSC partcipants are clearly asked to come up with original work. Why not just do so and avoid any zero fun discussion ? It's really not that hard. And not particularly restrictive either. There are other places in which these things can be be done. Maybe try the Music Café ?spridgeon wrote: Tue Aug 15, 2023 6:44 pm Brainbeat brought up the question of "covering" in a comment on my Soundcloud page, and I thought it was worth repeating my reply here, to see how others feel about this sometimes tricky subject:
"Accused of covering "There's a Hole in my Bucket??" ..."
Which is also a fine place to be for anyone can't live without sounddesign by external effect.
- KVRAF
- 2482 posts since 22 Sep, 2016
Voted ... little late. I hope still in time.
