KVR Audio

electro · Post by **electro** » Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:26 pm

UADx Native is the way but you must have a physical USB ilok.

heyheycnv · Post by **heyheycnv** » Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:41 pm

Really good plugins but Spark is the worst vst manager I've ever encountered. Worse than Waves central or IK. Lots of authorization headaches with no solution from UA support.

roman.i · Post by **roman.i** » Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:42 pm

electro wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:26 pm UADx Native is the way but you must have a physical USB ilok.

Incorrect, works with ilok cloud as well.

zvenx · Post by **zvenx** » Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:44 pm

heyheycnv wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:41 pm Really good plugins but Spark is the worst vst manager I've ever encountered. Worse than Waves central or IK. Lots of authorization headaches with no solution from UA support.

Interesting.
As a UAD customer from 2005, Spark (UA Connect) is probably the best thing to happen on the platform to me

rsp

roman.i · Post by **roman.i** » Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:46 pm

Maybe someone knows if native UAD oversample?
And if I’m running a higher rate, will they oversample or locked on a specific rate?

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Tue Aug 22, 2023 6:28 pm

HREQ wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 4:56 pm I currently have PA Everything bundle for 2022, as well as some waves and IK everything deal from anniversary sale.

Damn, dude, save some plugins for the rest of us.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:23 pm

roman.i wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 5:46 pm Maybe someone knows if native UAD oversample?
And if I’m running a higher rate, will they oversample or locked on a specific rate?

I believe they internally run at 192khz or thereabouts. So there's already lots of oversampling happening that you never see and have no control over. Changing the sample rate in your DAW won't change the sound.

roman.i · Post by **roman.i** » Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:26 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:23 pm I believe they internally run at 192khz or thereabouts. So there's already lots of oversampling happening that you never see and have no control over. Changing the sample rate in your DAW won't change the sound.

You're joking, right? 192 khz is 4x oversample all the time.

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:32 pm

roman.i wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:26 pm
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:23 pm I believe they internally run at 192khz or thereabouts. So there's already lots of oversampling happening that you never see and have no control over. Changing the sample rate in your DAW won't change the sound.
You're joking, right? 192 khz is 4x oversample all the time.

Did it sound like a joke?

roman.i · Post by **roman.i** » Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:35 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:32 pm Did it sound like a joke?

Maybe, maybe not.

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Wed Aug 23, 2023 12:21 am

roman.i wrote: Tue Aug 22, 2023 10:26 pm You're joking, right? 192 khz is 4x oversample all the time.

For the sake of clarity, they’re always 192khz no matter what. So if your DAW is set to 96khz, it’ll be 2x oversampling.

jens · Post by **jens** » Wed Aug 23, 2023 5:06 am

If they always run at 192khz internally, then it will be 4x "no matter what", regardless of the sample-rate, right? (i.e. 4x also @96)

edit: ah, I think I got you now - you mean @92 the sample-rate needs to be doubled up by the plugins (instead of quadrupled as with 48) to achieve the internal sample-rate?

Uncle E · Post by **Uncle E** » Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:12 pm

Correct

Funkybot's Evil Twin · Wed Aug 23, 2023 3:18 pm

Yeah, if you had a beast of a PC and ran your DAW projects at 192khz, the UAD plugins would be offering absolutely zero additional oversampling. They're just running at that fixed rate internally.

jamcat · Post by **jamcat** » Wed Aug 23, 2023 10:00 pm

At 192 you don’t really need oversampling.

The IK Tape Machines run at a fixed 384kHz internally, and I’d gladly trade that for 192 and half the CPU usage.

UAD still worth it?