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On a side note that I'm not really worried about, I have an FM8 update available that won't install. I get some error message. That seems to make a few installer blues over the last few months, starting with stem separation. To be fair, it's been rock solid until recently.

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I emailed Tracktion a week ago about feature ideas and someone replied. I am not sure how good they are for replying but I've emailed them about bugs today. Hopefully someone responds and can fix these issues.

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it's kind of f*cked up. some time ago, I sent the developers a project with a length of 5:30 minutes in which 60 tracks and at least one automation per track, so that they could reproduce the TW crash error when using any of the 2 parameters "reset all muted ...". "Which they cannot reproduce", as they answered me earlier, with their favorite expression. And yes, you won't be able to reproduce because you don't know your DAW.
The project was abandoned. I had some thoughts and decided to open it today. The project has loaded, only the Spire synthesizer does not want to load at all. There are about 10 tracks with Spire. And now what to do with the presets? Only one was factory... These m....s release some kind of shit unnecessary to anyone, and score on Waveform. Or even so, they create the possibility of using 4000+ tracks in Waveform, and they probably test on three, and they don't test working with midi with a large number of tracks at all.
Stability - tracktion does not know such a word.
I would only be glad if one of the bloggers would smash these assholes to pieces, and they would take up the head themselves or give someone work on Waveform.
I predict! It goes to the fact that no plugins in TW will work in the future. It will be possible to use only tracktion plugins, the same as Waveform, unfinished, buggy, half-developed.
And also, for the record, do you think Biotek will develop normally? No, that's how it will be. See who developed it and whether he is currently collaborating with Tracktion. I don’t understand how Tracktion lured Dawesome. With such synths, you could enter the market yourself, earn money and develop it. And now the developer will no longer need this bondage, and the development will be the worst. And this will happen with all products

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nowgad wrote: Sat Sep 09, 2023 10:17 pmThe project has loaded, only the Spire synthesizer does not want to load at all. There are about 10 tracks with Spire. And now what to do with the presets? Only one was factory...
There is a trick, as I understood, waveform was made wisely initially and it honestly tries to load the first of the available plugins involved in edit. If vst3 is not found, it will be used when loading vst2 and even wrapped in a shell jbridge, if only it is present in the list of available plugins.
Just go to the list of plugins, find the one you need and select it by pressing DEL, the plugin will disappear from waveform and will not be automatically added when the list is updated, because by deleting it, you sort of mark it to be unavailable.Then, you can manually throw the file into the list and it will come back as if nothing had happened.
I would suggest you to play with different variations of the spire itself, and also try to load it in jbridge mode, 64 bit for a 64 bit daw. It does not provide stable operation, but as an option to boot with it and save presets is ideal.


I warmly and directly support your emotional statements, this is the state I experienced when waveform switched from version 11 to 11.5. When I manually, spitting, tried to give at least some sane appearance to my language file and in the pop-up window of the program update notification, I replaced the standard text with - The developers do not want to fix anything, there is no point in updating :D
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Maarid wrote: Sun Sep 10, 2023 6:44 pm The developers do not want to fix anything, there is no point in updating :D
Thanks for the advice! :) I know how to deal with this, I’ve been using TW since the 11 pro version. You just get fed up with things like this: you can normally close a project, but when you open it, you can lose something. And you are looking for workarounds for bugs, instead of doing what daw is intended for. Plus the lies of the developers, on Instagram (about Biotek2), their statements about bug fixes, and conversations on namm23, where their staff cannot clearly answer questions. Some kind of surrealism. How do they test? Only projects with several tracks only with WAV? Only with your own plugins that blur the sound? Take Spire, when installing the latest version, all projects where Spire was previously involved do not see it. Spire developers say that only Waveform has this problem. Madhouse. What do they hope for after this? And now I’m thinking about which version 11 to switch to, because 12 is a garbage dump. I have already written a lot about such little things and not little things. They told me that I was whining and complaining :) . I'm not looking for a solution to the problem. But I don't want to tolerate this.
And I also have the conviction that some TW developers are also related to the DEVELOPMENT of JUCE, and with the realization of this my mind explodes. How can this be: the JUCE engine, JUCE plugins, developers are related to the development of JUCE - and everything works crookedly. How can this be? We, TW users, were lucky enough to be among the pre-alpha testers?))) Thanks, but don't test it on us!!!

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Is there a pirated version of Waveform 12? Or even pirates bypass Tracktion Waveform? After all, this is also an indicator of the popularity, convenience, and value of this code.

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