Install windows 11 on an unsupported Processor / TPM / Ram / SSD

[kingozrecords]

Hey all, been a while since I've posted; but I was waiting to have something meaningful to share with you.
I had been playing with the idea of making my ddr3, fx-8350 system a windows 11 one; I use the computer for a DAW, and ddr3 in tandem with an older processor.

I like old sportscars, old gear: And frankly, it was these old CPU's and a DAW; and those like the core2 that made billions more in the industry than their faster children.

Download the tool from Guthub

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Here is the github entry you will need to get your windows .iso ready to be installed on your older system:
https://github.com/AveYo/MediaCreationTool.bat

Then, once you have that folder downloaded, do not use the tool.

Download the iso file from the Windows site

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Download an iso for the windows site:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/softwar ... /windows11
(my url is for Canadians; but it will likely redirect you)

Place the downloaded iso file into the bypass11\ folder

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Like in the screenshot above, place your windows .iso file into this folder:

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C:\Users\User\Downloads\MediaCreationTool.bat-main\bypass11\

And double click the file:

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Skip_TPM_Check_on_Dynamic_Update.cmd

After, click the file:

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Quick_11_iso_esd_wim_TPM_toggle.bat

Install windows 11 from the .iso
Now, when you are ready to install windows 11; double click your .iso file.
However, make sure to change the update while installing setting:

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Turn the updates while installing off.

Now, follow the setup instructions and you're done!

[The Noodlist]

I'd consider upgrading to a Ryzen and M2 system. They use less energy and are many times more powerful than the FX-8350 and SATA SSD, that's what I did. It might cost less than you think to upgrade.

A FX-8350 system upgraded to a AMD Ryzen 5 4600G, ASUS Prime B550M-K, Kingston NV2 M.2-2280 500GB, 16GB of used ram and a gold+PSU. Reduced energy consumption was also a factor, file transfer speeds have greatly increased.

[kingozrecords]

I'd consider upgrading to a Ryzen and M2 system. They use less energy and are many times more powerful than the FX-8350 and SATA SSD, that's what I did. It might cost less than you think to upgrade.

A FX-8350 system upgraded to a AMD Ryzen 5 4600G, ASUS Prime B550M-K, Kingston NV2 M.2-2280 500GB, 16GB of used ram and a gold+PSU. Reduced energy consumption was also a factor, file transfer speeds have greatly increased. Perhaps though, the i5's are the exception.

Yes, I've been busying myself with getting my new apartment looking great and finding work. Though I may consider an upgrade in the future; I guess what has stopped me is the realization that the newer computers I have tried are not as fast on the internet. I know that seems a silly thing, but I can have like 100 tabs open on this old cpu; and there's never a hitch (even with multiple browsers).

I upgraded to a mllse rtx 2060 super (this specific ali store was recommended by techyescity) and that was a good move; currently am getting together the money to add liquid aio cooling for both the cpu and the gpu. I will use a Kraken G12, I've watched quite a few youtube videos with an installation walkthru; a bit makeshift, but it will do.

[BertKoor]

You don't need Win11 (or any specific OS for that matter) to use anything as a DAW.

The AMD FX-8350 seems compatible with Win10, which is still under official support for yet another year.
Why not go with that?

Also other people reading this should know exactly why this CPU is not supported, and what risks they take:
https://websuggestion.com/can-amd-fx-83 ... must-know/
(let alone the risk of running a 1400-lines long .bat file from a random dude on github and taking his word on the credibility, but we all know by now that KingzoRecords likes to live dangerously)

[BertKoor]

[...] the newer computers I have tried are not as fast on the internet. I know that seems a silly thing, but I can have like 100 tabs open on this old cpu; and there's never a hitch (even with multiple browsers).

That's a darned silly thing indeed, well worth to investigate further.
What's exactly the difference? Have you done an equal amount of tweaking?

[kingozrecords]

[...] the newer computers I have tried are not as fast on the internet. I know that seems a silly thing, but I can have like 100 tabs open on this old cpu; and there's never a hitch (even with multiple browsers).

That's a darned silly thing indeed, well worth to investigate further.
What's exactly the difference? Have you done an equal amount of tweaking?

Other than a lot of data processing; and shopping, browsing? I guess I don't push it too hard. The i7's were a bit jumpy for me. I liked the i5's alot; a nice experience.

I do play racing games though. All the newest on ultra.

EDIT: Hmm, I turned off defender, turned off hibernate; did away with animations, turned off all telemetry, I undervolt my gpu, I use minimal overclocking (+20%), I keep at least 2/5'ths of the ssd empty; do trim, clean registry with privazer, I erase all spyware and I don't use pirated stuff.

My machine would be faster though if I got rid of these damned hdd's though. Have to pay half month's rent to secure an apartment; so no timetec 2tb's right now. soon tho.

[The Noodlist]

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[BertKoor]

Then why exactly is this convoluted side-loading installation method needed?

[kingozrecords]

You don't need Win11 (or any specific OS for that matter) to use anything as a DAW.

The AMD FX-8350 seems compatible with Win10, which is still under official support for yet another year.
Why not go with that?

Also other people reading this should know exactly why this CPU is not supported, and what risks they take:
https://websuggestion.com/can-amd-fx-83 ... must-know/
(let alone the risk of running a 1400-lines long .bat file from a random dude on github and taking his word on the credibility, but we all know by now that KingzoRecords likes to live dangerously)

 

I'm sure Secure Boot is supported with the FX-8350, the options to enable this were available in the BIOS (M5A97 R2.0). It also has a TPM header.
https://websuggestion.com/can-amd-fx-83 ... ow/#TPM_20

A forum discussing upgrading on legacy hardware.
https://linustechtips.com/topic/1379058 ... ebootuefi/
It mentions being able to upgrade if secure boot and a TPM device is present, and receive warnings during install.

Google doesn't run my brain; I listen to the smartest on YouTube who recommended this method, with 100's of thousands of subscribers. Who cares about any of this.

You don't need Win11 (or any specific OS for that matter) to use anything as a DAW.

The AMD FX-8350 seems compatible with Win10, which is still under official support for yet another year.
Why not go with that?

Also other people reading this should know exactly why this CPU is not supported, and what risks they take:
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">https://websuggestion.com/can-amd-fx-83 ... ow</span>/
(let alone the risk of running a 1400-lines long .bat file from a random dude on github and taking his word on the credibility, but we all know by now that KingzoRecords likes to live dangerously)

I'm sure Secure Boot is supported with the FX-8350, the options to enable this were available in the BIOS ([url=<a href="https://www.asus.com/us/supportonly/m5a ... _knowledge" class="skimlinks-unlinked" data-skimwords-word="https%3A%2F%2Fwww.asus.com%2Fus%2Fsupportonly%2Fm5a97_r20%2Fhelpdesk_knowledge" data-skim-creative="500005" title="" style="">https://www.asus.com/us/supportonly/m5a ... ledge</a>/]M5A97 R2.0)[/url]. It also has a TPM header.
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">https://websuggestion.com/can-amd-fx-83 ... M_20</span>

A forum discussing upgrading on legacy hardware.
<span class="skimlinks-unlinked">https://linustechtips.com/topic/1379058 ... fi</span>/
It mentions being able to upgrade if secure boot and a TPM device is present, and receive warnings during install.

It has a TPM, but not the new multi-threaded versions. Would force a lineup of certificate approvals; slowing multi-threaded data.

Switching over to the Sabertooth R2 Gen 3.0 soon (hyperthreaded m.2 pcie card with custom bios chip, pcie 3.0 for big boost). I don't like TPM's, but I don't mind the multi-threaded ones built into processors, I've noticed no drawback from them; not like they're a serial connection.

All I can say is to the haters: Listen wankers; some guys like to put all the smart tech like parking cameras in custom carbon fiber wrapped dashes in their old cars, live a little.

Then why exactly is this convoluted side-loading installation method needed?

It works, and so do I

[The Noodlist]

All I can say is to the haters: Listen wankers; some guys like to put all the smart tech like parking cameras in custom carbon fiber wrapped dashes in their old cars, live a little.

Easy, no offence meant. Whatever floats your boat, you can delete my quotes, if you like.

[kingozrecords]

All I can say is to the haters: Listen wankers; some guys like to put all the smart tech like parking cameras in custom carbon fiber wrapped dashes in their old cars, live a little.

Easy, no offence meant. Whatever floats your boat, you can delete my quotes, if you like.

No, nothing like that; I meant in general; not directed at anybody. Sigh, nobody respects a collector of older technologies. I just get a kick out of it. Like an old electric guitar, or car; it pleases me.

EDIT: And, I will have to pay 500 cad for an Asus Sabertooth 990FX/GEN3 R2.0; not like the first PCIE 3.0 motherboard ever made comes cheap. It's only for those with means. Why do it? RAM latency for one, for processing audio / video real time. More latency in the newer stuff I'm afraid.

I guess it comes down to whether or not you're really serious about owning a machine that can process audio real-time or not. With any computer, there's latency; the test is in the response time from the soundcard to the reference headphones as you speak or sing.

[t3toooo]

I used Rufus to install Windows 11 on my I7-7700 PC. Some days later I stuck a TPM modul on the board.

[kingozrecords]

I used Rufus to install Windows 11 on my I7-7700 PC. Some days later I stuck a TPM modul on the board.

Nice, nothing wrong with bit locker if you have snoopy friends lol. I know that windows 11 hello was a Godsend; getting a fingerprint reader and removing pin access. Will sure make life less stressful. Now to put a lock on the tower also (and get a mini air conditioner beside it that's isn't an evaporator); would be great. I was looking at the Jonsbo Mesh with the temp screens, damn; too bad it doesn't come in a full ATX tower size, have no ITX boards.

Here is the recording I made on my older model of PC, using a Blue Snowball ICE on a boom arm fitted with an acoustic silencer on FL Studio 11:

This is a really rough recording, there's a lot of strain on my vocal cords that may or may not be due to me singing beyond my register. It may be because I'm quitting smoking. I'll likely try using Cepacol to calm the strain in my voice in the meantime. I also notice that any accent seems embellished after adding drive, especially with consonants. I'll try and tame those with training and with processing.

I also should have been using this drink holder, because it took forty takes but whatever. Meaning to add synth lines made with a synth by a fellow developer, I'll be in touch with him. Really nice synth, and it would be cool if I could help promote his product.

Newer is not always better, making a quality recording means you can hear your own voice with reference monitors on. I relied on the Monster DNA headphones; tested on a 500 watts rms Logitech Z906 Dolby [v1] system and a 400 watt rms Logitech z623

[BertKoor]

I relied on the Monster DNA headphones; tested on a 500 watts rms Logitech Z906 Dolby [v1] system and a 400 watt rms Logitech z623

500W RMS into wireless headphones... Interesting...

[kingozrecords]

I relied on the Monster DNA headphones; tested on a 500 watts rms Logitech Z906 Dolby [v1] system and a 400 watt rms Logitech z623

500W RMS into headphones... Interesting...

lol Bert