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irpacynot · Post by **irpacynot** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 3:53 am

Whenever I close out a project and return, the band-solo setting in the TDR Nova EQ resets. For this song I'm working on, I have a few tracks where I want only specific bands to be on. Every time I come back to work on the project, I have to turn those specific bands back on.

A Waveform (12) thing or a Tokyo Dawn Labs thing, you think?

nowgad · Post by **nowgad** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 10:25 am

mmmmm, I'll try to guess... no other daw does this happen, does it?

Peter Widdicombe · Post by **Peter Widdicombe** » Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:51 pm

VST3 thing, I believe. Do they have a VST2 version?

irpacynot · Post by **irpacynot** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:57 am

Peter Widdicombe wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:51 pm VST3 thing, I believe. Do they have a VST2 version?

Hmm...not sure. I'm still new to all this, really. And I was under the impression Waveform can't do VST2s.

nowgad · Post by **nowgad** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 8:18 am

irpacynot wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:57 am
Peter Widdicombe wrote: Mon Sep 04, 2023 12:51 pm VST3 thing, I believe. Do they have a VST2 version?
Hmm...not sure. I'm still new to all this, really. And I was under the impression Waveform can't do VST2s.

TW works fine with vst3 and vst, most of those formats. Contact the developers of both TW and TDR and most likely one of them will make corrections.

operandx · Post by **operandx** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:04 am

I use vst2 of Nova in WF. Retains on/off state of bands on edit save/reopen. Doesn't save state of 'Band Solo' button but thats just for previewing which freq regions are being affected by selected bands so I wouldn't expect it to be saved.

Watchful · Post by **Watchful** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 12:27 pm

I've encountered a few plugins that work fine in one format but not the other. I've got a mix of vst2 and vst3 plugins. It's most likely not a Waveform issue; just a quirk of so many developers doing different things.

pough · Post by **pough** » Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:12 pm

irpacynot wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:57 am And I was under the impression Waveform can't do VST2s.

Waveform can't use 32-bit VSTs but it can use any 64-bit VST (no matter if it's VST2 or VST3).

irpacynot · Post by **irpacynot** » Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:06 am

pough wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 5:12 pm
irpacynot wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 3:57 am And I was under the impression Waveform can't do VST2s.
Waveform can't use 32-bit VSTs but it can use any 64-bit VST (no matter if it's VST2 or VST3).

Ah, thanks.

operandx wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:04 am I use vst2 of Nova in WF. Retains on/off state of bands on edit save/reopen. Doesn't save state of 'Band Solo' button but thats just for previewing which freq regions are being affected by selected bands so I wouldn't expect it to be saved.

No, I don't think that's correct.

I've purposely been using it on return tracks as a way to affect only certain bands. So, for instance, with a guitar submix, I wanted to use Ozone Imager 2 only for the mid-highs of the guitars -- wanted to spread them out more while keeping the lower frequencies tighter. It works. I've also used it for reverbs in that way.

operandx · Post by **operandx** » Wed Sep 06, 2023 11:31 am

irpacynot wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:06 am

operandx wrote: Tue Sep 05, 2023 11:04 am I use vst2 of Nova in WF. Retains on/off state of bands on edit save/reopen. Doesn't save state of 'Band Solo' button but thats just for previewing which freq regions are being affected by selected bands so I wouldn't expect it to be saved.
No, I don't think that's correct.

I've purposely been using it on return tracks as a way to affect only certain bands. So, for instance, with a guitar submix, I wanted to use Ozone Imager 2 only for the mid-highs of the guitars -- wanted to spread them out more while keeping the lower frequencies tighter. It works. I've also used it for reverbs in that way.

Yup, you are right, I didn't consider using it for that purpose, we should be able to save state. Don't know if it's saved in other DAWs

dysjoint · Post by **dysjoint** » Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:36 pm

Generally you would use a band pass filter or a combined low/high pass filter setting to isolate part of the spectrum. Haven't used nova, but these are basic options that it should have and would be saveable.

dysjoint · Post by **dysjoint** » Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:44 pm

Also, if you have the Waveform Daw essentials plugins, there is a multiband splitter in there. You need to wrap it in a rack and then you can take your output from the low, mid or high band (or a balanced combination). In the plugin itself you adjust the three bands filter slope, volume, and crossover (eg you could take the mids, a small amount of highs, and no lows)

pough · Post by **pough** » Wed Sep 06, 2023 4:41 pm

I did some testing. The band solo doesn't save in Waveform using either the VST2 or VST3 version of TDR Nova. It also doesn't save in Reaper using either the VST2 or VST3 version. So it looks like it's either a TDR Nova bug or else it's not meant to be saved.

Watchful · Post by **Watchful** » Wed Sep 06, 2023 9:42 pm

dysjoint wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 3:44 pm Also, if you have the Waveform Daw essentials plugins, there is a multiband splitter in there. You need to wrap it in a rack and then you can take your output from the low, mid or high band (or a balanced combination). In the plugin itself you adjust the three bands filter slope, volume, and crossover (eg you could take the mids, a small amount of highs, and no lows)

*If* Tony has the DAW Essentials in his version, this sounds like a *really* useful and slick idea. Nice call.

irpacynot · Post by **irpacynot** » Thu Sep 07, 2023 9:16 am

pough wrote: Wed Sep 06, 2023 4:41 pm I did some testing. The band solo doesn't save in Waveform using either the VST2 or VST3 version of TDR Nova. It also doesn't save in Reaper using either the VST2 or VST3 version. So it looks like it's either a TDR Nova bug or else it's not meant to be saved.

Ah, yeah, they might not have considered it for that use.

Thanks for checking into that.

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