D16 Drumazon 2 is coming

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The attack parameter from the kick is too strong in my opinion. Even with the lowest attack there is a very noticable short 'click' peak. With Drumazone I can get lower to get softer kicks. It's visible in the waveform too.

@Przemek Is it possible to tweak the current range a bit to go even lower with the Kick "attack" than now?

@d16
Just want to give myself a +1 after using it for a whole day.

The attack transient of the kick with the lowest attack setting is too strong. You can't really create soft kicks. With a high cut and saturation just for the kick you can round the attack transient a bit, but I miss the attack range of Drumazon1 where the "click" could be almost removed.

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By the way. I can fully recommend to experiment with the "hi cut" with 0% resonance for individual sound between 14-9khz in the Strips section.

It's a great filter curve without any unwanted coloration to tame the bite when you're after a softer or rounder 909. For me it's one of the best tools to get different but puristic sounding flavours of 909 sound.

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Does anyone also find it difficult to get the decay of the kick right?

I'm often around 42-51% and the sub tail of the kick is often either too short or too long. Could be a stepper release curve that falls of quickly. At first glance I don't hear a difference to Drumazon1 in this regards, but I'm still trying to figure it out if it's the tool or me.

[gentleclockdivider]

Always preferred Audio realism abl over phoscyon ,but when it comes to 909 emu's Drumazon takes the cake .
Just dry no-effects , a bit of airwindows mackity (or mack eq ) for overdrive ..awesome
D16 plugins have always been click heavy , what would be great if instruments edit pages are automatically selected when pressing a midi note ( in strip page ) , instead of clicking each instrument button separately .

[Echoes in the Attic]

Always preferred Audio realism abl over phoscyon ,but when it comes to 909 emu's Drumazon takes the cake .
Just dry no-effects , a bit of airwindows mackity (or mack eq ) for overdrive ..awesome
D16 plugins have always been click heavy , what would be great if instruments edit pages are automatically selected when pressing a midi note ( in strip page ) , instead of clicking each instrument button separately .

Yeah my only gripe right now is I find myself clicking around a lot. Especially if not using a keyboard or midi trigger, as I audition the drums in that lower box on the right and then have to find the drum you want in the Strip section. It's always handy to have a selection method that can also audition, or even if the audition were on the drum names or a button there or something. But yeah with the current design, probably an option would be good to show the drum strip on trigger (either from the lower box or midi). Sort of makes it go nuts when a sequence is playing though.

[kmonkey]

The attack transient of the kick with the lowest attack setting is too strong. You can't really create soft kicks. With a high cut and saturation just for the kick you can round the attack transient a bit, but I miss the attack range of Drumazon1 where the "click" could be almost removed.

No, the attack is not too strong. I have RD9 and TR-8S and most definitely it is as same as their models. Yesterday I compared Drumazon 2 BD with TR-8S (their ACB model named 909 Bass 1) and with correct settings, they are almost indistinguishable.

You can create soft kicks with Dynamics FX (VCA mode is essentially an awesome transient shaper). You can also tame attack with a compressor and you can make it baloney soft with Tune, pitch, and tune depth.

The attack is spot on!

[kmonkey]

Does anyone also find it difficult to get the decay of the kick right?

A small tip from the manual. Hold CTRL while dragging decay (or any control). Control is much more refined that way and it DOES make a difference.

Here is a copy-paste from manual:

Fine-tuning continuous parameters
Tweak a control (knob) while holding the CTRL key (on Windows) or Apple CMD key (on macOS) - this will make the tweaking more precise while moving the mouse pointer up and down.

Double-click to reset a continuous parameter’s value
Double-clicking on a parameter restores its value to the initial state, either default (right after loading the plug-in / loading it along with a project file) or from the most recently loaded preset.

[Echoes in the Attic]

The other thing I like that Roland and ADM do is that you can put in the weak or strong hits without key modifiers. With ADM you click again to cycle and Roland has the weak button that can be activated. D16 makes you use a key modifier (Ctrl I think) for the strong hit? Do I have that correct? Or am I missing a toggle between Strong/weak hits?

There's lots of times I don't want to use the keyboard while making sequences, like using my surface pro with pen, or my touch screen on my desk etc.

[kraster]

The other thing I like that Roland and ADM do is that you can put in the weak or strong hits without key modifiers. With ADM you click again to cycle and Roland has the weak button that can be activated. D16 makes you use a key modifier (Ctrl I think) for the strong hit? Do I have that correct? Or am I missing a toggle between Strong/weak hits?

There's lots of times I don't want to use the keyboard while making sequences, like using my surface pro with pen, or my touch screen on my desk etc.

You can click on the speaker icons to the right of the sequencer under "step type" to choose between hard and soft if you don't want to use the keyboard.

I think they had to decide between using the right click for articulations or normal and accented velocities.

Might be nice to have an option to use the right click to switch velocity

I am absolutely not a fan of the normal/strong/off cycle modes for velocity. Left click should be always on/off imho.

[Cyforce]

Maybe one day to late (regarding 909 day), a short preset showing video:


Shows a small selection, of let`s say favorite presets of personal taste. Have a nice sunday!

[robindrieghe]

as d16 fan i bought the update without trying...now in an empty project 1 instance : 60% pcu load.

What system are you on?
I started off using this on my 2014 macbook pro at 64 sample size buffer and never had cpu issues.
My 2014 studio cat built pc same thing.

My 'new' 2021 macbook pro now doesn't even blink.
All cubendo using the vst3.
rsp

nothing fancy but nothng old too. i can run the diva demo multiple times without problems.

[Echoes in the Attic]

The other thing I like that Roland and ADM do is that you can put in the weak or strong hits without key modifiers. With ADM you click again to cycle and Roland has the weak button that can be activated. D16 makes you use a key modifier (Ctrl I think) for the strong hit? Do I have that correct? Or am I missing a toggle between Strong/weak hits?

There's lots of times I don't want to use the keyboard while making sequences, like using my surface pro with pen, or my touch screen on my desk etc.

You can click on the speaker icons to the right of the sequencer under "step type" to choose between hard and soft if you don't want to use the keyboard.

Aha! Thank you!

[zvenx]

as d16 fan i bought the update without trying...now in an empty project 1 instance : 60% pcu load.

What system are you on?
I started off using this on my 2014 macbook pro at 64 sample size buffer and never had cpu issues.
My 2014 studio cat built pc same thing.

My 'new' 2021 macbook pro now doesn't even blink.
All cubendo using the vst3.
rsp

nothing fancy but nothng old too. i can run the diva demo multiple times without problems.

I assume you sent them your specs? Saying it has high cpu usage which seems unusual, probably wouldn't help them track the issue down on your system. Assuming you do want it addressed.
rsp

[robindrieghe]

as d16 fan i bought the update without trying...now in an empty project 1 instance : 60% pcu load.

What system are you on?
I started off using this on my 2014 macbook pro at 64 sample size buffer and never had cpu issues.
My 2014 studio cat built pc same thing.

My 'new' 2021 macbook pro now doesn't even blink.
All cubendo using the vst3.
rsp

nothing fancy but nothng old too. i can run the diva demo multiple times without problems.

I assume you sent them your specs? Saying it has high cpu usage which seems unusual, probably wouldn't help them track the issue down on your system. Assuming you do want it addressed.
rsp

cpu should be able handle it...i might send them a message indeed.

[zvenx]

Please do. Or at least post it here.
rsp