The title says it all...
Waveform automatically changes the tempo of imported audio, which is a good thing in most cases.
In some cases i need an edit, where imported audio automatically maintain their original tempo.
I know you can change the tempo of a clip by selecting it and disable tempo change in the properties panel (then the tempo changes, but the clip length maintains the same).
Once i had an edit, where all imported audio files maintained their original tempo, without changing it manually and the clip length was as long as the audio itself, so it's definitely possible.
Unfortunately i forgot how i did this...
Maybe there is an adjustment in the settings section, but i cannot find it.
I'd be happy if someone can help!
How to create an edit, where imported audio automatically maintain their original tempo?
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- KVRer
- 8 posts since 10 Sep, 2023
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- KVRian
- 544 posts since 24 Jan, 2004 from Sweden
My imported clips always retain their tempo. I guess it depends on whether the clips contain tempo information or not.
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- KVRian
- 500 posts since 3 Dec, 2021
You're fighting the devs on this one. I believe Stuttaton is right, it may depend if the audio has tempo data written into it. The annoying thing is everything you render in Waveform now seems to be writing tempo and pitch data into the file. I can't see any way to turn this off. I don't even set a key in my project lol, I certainly don't want it written in automatically. Likewise with sound design edits, the tempo may be irrelevant, or poly rhythmic , and I don't want it written in every time.
And it causes other issues. If for example I process a drum hit or break or whatever and push it into a hard clipper at 0db then render, the algorithm will a) sometimes not even be able to match tempo of the render with the project it was rendered in, and b) will cause the hard clipped audio to break through 0db due to whatever pitch and tempo helpfulness Waveform is blessing us with. I can fix this manually clip by clip after rendering in the properties but it gets annoying.
I. Just. Want. To. Be. Able. To. Turn. It. Off. (I wrote that last sentence with my forehead)
Disclaimer. I'm maybe showing my era, the modern Splice kids may love all this loop trickery.
And it causes other issues. If for example I process a drum hit or break or whatever and push it into a hard clipper at 0db then render, the algorithm will a) sometimes not even be able to match tempo of the render with the project it was rendered in, and b) will cause the hard clipped audio to break through 0db due to whatever pitch and tempo helpfulness Waveform is blessing us with. I can fix this manually clip by clip after rendering in the properties but it gets annoying.
I. Just. Want. To. Be. Able. To. Turn. It. Off. (I wrote that last sentence with my forehead)
Disclaimer. I'm maybe showing my era, the modern Splice kids may love all this loop trickery.
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- KVRian
- 500 posts since 3 Dec, 2021
You're fighting the devs on this one. I believe Stuttaton is right, it may depend if the audio has tempo data written into it. The annoying thing is everything you render in Waveform now seems to be writing tempo and pitch data into the file. I can't see any way to turn this off. I don't even set a key in my project lol, I certainly don't want it written in automatically. Likewise with sound design edits, the tempo may be irrelevant, or poly rhythmic , and I don't want it written in every time.
And it causes other issues. If for example I process a drum hit or break or whatever and push it into a hard clipper at 0db then render, the algorithm will a) sometimes not even be able to match tempo of the render with the project it was rendered in, and b) will cause the hard clipped audio to break through 0db due to whatever pitch and tempo helpfulness Waveform is blessing us with. I can fix this manually clip by clip after rendering in the properties but it gets annoying.
I. Just. Want. To. Be. Able. To. Turn. It. Off. (I wrote that last sentence with my forehead)
Disclaimer. I'm maybe showing my era, the modern Splice kids may love all this loop trickery.
And it causes other issues. If for example I process a drum hit or break or whatever and push it into a hard clipper at 0db then render, the algorithm will a) sometimes not even be able to match tempo of the render with the project it was rendered in, and b) will cause the hard clipped audio to break through 0db due to whatever pitch and tempo helpfulness Waveform is blessing us with. I can fix this manually clip by clip after rendering in the properties but it gets annoying.
I. Just. Want. To. Be. Able. To. Turn. It. Off. (I wrote that last sentence with my forehead)
Disclaimer. I'm maybe showing my era, the modern Splice kids may love all this loop trickery.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 8 posts since 10 Sep, 2023
I tried this with the same mp3 files in two edits/projects.
I still have this one edit where all audio files retain their original tempo.
But when i create a new project, all audio files i import change their tempos.
I think it has something to do with loop automation.
It was an adjustment i did with no clip selected.
I looked everywhere, but cannot remind how i did this.
I still have this one edit where all audio files retain their original tempo.
But when i create a new project, all audio files i import change their tempos.
I think it has something to do with loop automation.
It was an adjustment i did with no clip selected.
I looked everywhere, but cannot remind how i did this.
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- KVRian
- 500 posts since 3 Dec, 2021
There is a setting to detect tempo of imported audio that can be turned off, but nothing I've found to stop the writing of meta data when rendering or a complete 'ignore' option. Waveform has a lot of options now for audio and clips (proxy files, resampling algorithms/functions, auto tempo, auto pitch, remap on tempo change, follow pitch/chord track). It looks quite useful, but they all introduce various other issues/artifacts and or aliasing and if is a bit hard to find that magic combo of settings that just works consistently.
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 8 posts since 10 Sep, 2023
I wish this would solve the issue, but unfortunatly this doesn't work for me.
Which is a bit strange, because how can it not detect and then change the tempo though, makes no sense.
Which is a bit strange, because how can it not detect and then change the tempo though, makes no sense.
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- KVRAF
- 4886 posts since 3 Jan, 2003 from Vancouver
Changing the setting only works for importing (non-tempo-set) audio in the future. To un-Tempo an audio clip you need to open the Control Panel into "Useful" mode, select the Loop Properties tab and de-select the Auto-Tempo setting.
Surely there must be consensus by now...