I Hate This Song - What Song Do You Hate?
- KVRAF
- 7001 posts since 20 Mar, 2012 from Babbleon
maybe he was recalling his former life in los angeles?
he and iggy went to berlin to get clean?
maybe it wasn't easy and it's possible they were still taking drugs
he and iggy went to berlin to get clean?
maybe it wasn't easy and it's possible they were still taking drugs
ah böwakawa poussé poussé
- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
id have to find the book but im sure it was a berlin parking lot?
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- KVRian
- 712 posts since 7 Sep, 2012
That's a silly argument, you clearly don't know the first thing about the Beatles.Bombadil wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:46 pm Paul wanted to write the perfect pop song, a la Brian Wilson. John was more influenced by Dylan. I prefer John and George's stuff, late Beatles. With a few exceptions, of course. Macca was the engine, Lennon/Harrison the heart and soul.
Most of the 66-69 experimental ideas including tomorrow never knows loops, strawberry fields and lucy in the skies intros, came from Paul. Even revolution #9 came two years after McCartney did the same with carnival of lights.
John solo career is a showcase for what he can do alone, after one good album (plastic ono band) he had on of the most boring solo career ever, no experimental ideas, adult mainstream music, you hear full albums without a single! interesting idea (mind games) and his 1980 comeback was a disaster who got very bad reviews just before he was shot dead.
As a musician he was also the worst out of the 4, again listen to his solo career, try to spot 1 interesting thing he played, he was extremely limited player.
But luckily for him, he had Paul and George Martin to cover it up.
Harrison had 4, 5 great songs in an almost 40 years career, that's very poor, it's true that he had the best song in both abbey road and the white album, but that was it.
- KVRAF
- 11950 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Someplace else
nirm123 wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:48 pmThat's a silly argument, you clearly don't know the first thing about the Beatles.Bombadil wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 2:46 pm Paul wanted to write the perfect pop song, a la Brian Wilson. John was more influenced by Dylan. I prefer John and George's stuff, late Beatles. With a few exceptions, of course. Macca was the engine, Lennon/Harrison the heart and soul.
Most of the 66-69 experimental ideas including tomorrow never knows loops, strawberry fields and lucy in the skies intros, came from Paul. Even revolution #9 came two years after McCartney did the same with carnival of lights.
John solo career is a showcase for what he can do alone, after one good album (plastic ono band) he had on of the most boring solo career ever, no experimental ideas, adult mainstream music, you hear full albums without a single! interesting idea (mind games) and his 1980 comeback was a disaster who got very bad reviews just before he was shot dead.
As a musician he was also the worst out of the 4, again listen to his solo career, try to spot 1 interesting thing he played, he was extremely limited player.
But luckily for him, he had Paul and George Martin to cover it up.
Harrison had 4, 5 great songs in an almost 40 years career, that's very poor, it's true that he had the best song in both abbey road and the white album, but that was it.
“The Generals sat, and the lines on the map, moved from side to side.”
― Pink Floyd
― Pink Floyd
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- KVRAF
- 8025 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle
Yep, the Berlin trilogy is more a testament to the fact that you can sometimes do your best work while too high to even remember doing it.vurt wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 3:31 pmerrr...
always crashing the same car, is literally about chasing a coke dealer in a car park![]()
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- KVRian
- 712 posts since 7 Sep, 2012
Now for the worst songs of the 60s and the 70s (the 80s were quite good years for music, it's harder to find such terrible songs).
1) Basically everything by Pink Floyd after Syd left (he was a true genius, their first album was amazing) was bad but Pigs from animals was the worst song of the 70s (I'm happy that everyone now sees Roger Waters for who he's, I could see thru decades before).
2) Same goes for Dylan, the guy was 100% a press invention, worst singing ability ever, can't craft a nice melody for 60 years, he can't even properly tune his guitar, but ‘Rainy Day Women #12 & 35’ is a good contender together with Beatles 'I'm the Walrus' for the worst song of the 60s (luckily Walrus was just a b-side, easily saved by McCartney brilliant 'Hello, Goodbye', also Lennon managed to get only 2 a-side single post 65 (All you need is love and The Ballad Of John And Yoko) just goes to show to he couldn't compete with Paul, people couldn't really tolerate his songs post 1965.
3) For latest years junk: basically all tracks made by Modular synthesis "experts" sounds like farts.
It really amazes me that people invest $20k an years upon year in building modular monsters just in order to get random white noises out of them. I can freely get random white noises just by listening to my wife while she's farting all night long, and it's free. but seriously enough, I've yet to hear one musical track made by those Modular synthesis experts.
1) Basically everything by Pink Floyd after Syd left (he was a true genius, their first album was amazing) was bad but Pigs from animals was the worst song of the 70s (I'm happy that everyone now sees Roger Waters for who he's, I could see thru decades before).
2) Same goes for Dylan, the guy was 100% a press invention, worst singing ability ever, can't craft a nice melody for 60 years, he can't even properly tune his guitar, but ‘Rainy Day Women #12 & 35’ is a good contender together with Beatles 'I'm the Walrus' for the worst song of the 60s (luckily Walrus was just a b-side, easily saved by McCartney brilliant 'Hello, Goodbye', also Lennon managed to get only 2 a-side single post 65 (All you need is love and The Ballad Of John And Yoko) just goes to show to he couldn't compete with Paul, people couldn't really tolerate his songs post 1965.
3) For latest years junk: basically all tracks made by Modular synthesis "experts" sounds like farts.
It really amazes me that people invest $20k an years upon year in building modular monsters just in order to get random white noises out of them. I can freely get random white noises just by listening to my wife while she's farting all night long, and it's free. but seriously enough, I've yet to hear one musical track made by those Modular synthesis experts.
- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
the 80s gave us dancing in the street, bowie and jagger. how much worse do you need??nirm123 wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 4:18 pm Now for the worst songs of the 60s and the 70s (the 80s were quite good years for music, it's harder to find such terrible songs).
- KVRAF
- 11950 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Someplace else
I cannot take this guy seriously. The 80's???
I'm not going to argue musical taste.
My knowledge of the Beatles is 'expert level.' I've been a fan since the Ed Sullivan Show. I wasn't yet 4. I was playing their songs on my organ when I was 9-10. I used to be able to play almost their entire released catalog on either guitar or keyboard by the time I was in my early 20's when I busked to support myself through college.
I'm not going to argue musical taste.
My knowledge of the Beatles is 'expert level.' I've been a fan since the Ed Sullivan Show. I wasn't yet 4. I was playing their songs on my organ when I was 9-10. I used to be able to play almost their entire released catalog on either guitar or keyboard by the time I was in my early 20's when I busked to support myself through college.
“The Generals sat, and the lines on the map, moved from side to side.”
― Pink Floyd
― Pink Floyd
- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
and mull of kyntire was shit.
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- KVRian
- 712 posts since 7 Sep, 2012
Sorry, the taste you're continuously showing around here isn't very good. you seems to think that if music lacks any sense of melody and it's filled with random noise instead, it makes it great, well, not really, this is why modular synthesis music is random junk (at best).
the 80s gave us:
New Order
The Cure
Pet Shop Boys
Depeche Mode
Tears for fears
The first few exciting of House and Techno before the became junk as well (unfortunately)
Run D.M.C
Public Enemy
The Beastie Boys
De La Soul
Africa Bambaataa
Pixies
Sonic Youth
Only clowns can claim that the 80's was a bad decade for music.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
i made no such claim.
i was refuting your claim there were no bad songs in the 80s.
i was refuting your claim there were no bad songs in the 80s.
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- KVRian
- 712 posts since 7 Sep, 2012
There were, but it's harder to find them than in the 60s or 70s when most music was crap (the 60s were saved by McCartney Beatles songs and Brian Wilson plus Syd Barrett amazing talent till both got crazy after taking too much LSD), the 70s weren't saved by anyone till Kraftwerk and Tangerine Dream came along, this showed people that drags are bad for everything, both for health and for music.
Dancing in the street by bowie and jagger is a cover for a 60s song, I agree it's a terrible terrible song but again, blame the 60s and Motown for it.
Dancing in the street by bowie and jagger is a cover for a 60s song, I agree it's a terrible terrible song but again, blame the 60s and Motown for it.
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- addled muppet weed
- 111292 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
pretty sure macca took his fair share.
still enjoys the waccy baccy apparently.
still enjoys the waccy baccy apparently.
- KVRAF
- 16136 posts since 13 Nov, 2012
That reminds me, there is a song I hate:vurt wrote: Sun Sep 17, 2023 5:11 pm pretty sure macca took his fair share.
still enjoys the waccy baccy apparently.