OTO BIM vst alternative?
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- KVRist
- 459 posts since 21 Jul, 2001
O o, another piece of neglected software to pull out and try.
- KVRAF
- 11332 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
Just when I'm considering installing/not installing Reaktor on the new laptop.audiouser720 wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:25 pmYeah it seems we have similar taste in rev / del. I also think Lx480 is amazing but too realistic, not dirty / grainy enough. Funny about Valhalla the only one I like is the free Supermassive and not because it’s free. It’s their best sounding plugin IMHO.drsyncenstein wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:15 pm The best hardware delay for me is the pcm80. Not vintage sound, but there must be someone inside it with a can of syrup. Pouring loads over the signal. Echoboy is one delay that i own for some reason never use. Probably because you are right. We agree on H-delay. There is something about the H-reverb i like too. Relab; like sonsig most and goldplate when you crank the squish knob way too high. 480 sounds too realistic for what i do with it. I knew Arturia from the so so synths, but they surprised me. There are quite a few good fx in the bundle. Supermassive is also a favourite, in my book the plugz he gives away for free are his best.
One of my secret weapons are Rounds reverb and delay in Reaktor Blocks. I think those cheeky little effects sound awesome.
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- KVRian
- 998 posts since 31 Oct, 2020
By the way what’s your take on Valhalla Delay, especially the digital mode? Comparing to your mentioned lexicon box and other favourite vst effects that sound as good as hardware?drsyncenstein wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:36 pm O o, another piece of neglected software to pull out and try.
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- KVRAF
- 1910 posts since 8 Jan, 2022
Valhalla's Digital Mode has the age parameter.
At 50% it's essentially operating at 12-bit. Push it further and you go into less bit depth.
You can add more saturation via the drive control.
You also have a triangle modulation and a low pass and high pass filter.
The ERA control changes the overall timbre and saturation.
At 50% it's essentially operating at 12-bit. Push it further and you go into less bit depth.
You can add more saturation via the drive control.
You also have a triangle modulation and a low pass and high pass filter.
The ERA control changes the overall timbre and saturation.
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- KVRian
- 998 posts since 31 Oct, 2020
Yes, I know all of this. I’m merely comparing the sound with these settings to those mentioned hardware boxes and I’m personally not convinced. Sometimes. But not always.kraster wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:30 pm Valhalla's Digital Mode has the age parameter.
At 50% it's essentially operating at 12-bit. Push it further and you go into less bit depth.
You can add more saturation via the drive control.
You also have a triangle modulation and a low pass and high pass filter.
The ERA control changes the overall timbre and saturation.
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- KVRist
- 459 posts since 21 Jul, 2001
I tried V Delay some time ago and decided it was not different enough to add to the collection. I can't remember how i felt about the different modes.
Today we have ua lex 224 for 39$. Crazy times.
Today we have ua lex 224 for 39$. Crazy times.
- KVRAF
- 11332 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
I still haven’t loaded on the Valhalla plugins, and I don’t think I will.
In addition to Bam, I have 224 (UA) and just added the relab xl480. Agreed not enough differences to justify keeping on now.
Back to Bim… Soundtoys’ Primal Tap holds its own in a different way, especially as a performative tool. Yeah, plenty of latency, but in a mixing stage, that’s not an issue.
Not sure why I haven’t used it before, but reading that Prime Time 93 was likely use on the Once In a Lifetime track made some things click.
In addition to Bam, I have 224 (UA) and just added the relab xl480. Agreed not enough differences to justify keeping on now.
Back to Bim… Soundtoys’ Primal Tap holds its own in a different way, especially as a performative tool. Yeah, plenty of latency, but in a mixing stage, that’s not an issue.
Not sure why I haven’t used it before, but reading that Prime Time 93 was likely use on the Once In a Lifetime track made some things click.
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- KVRist
- 459 posts since 21 Jul, 2001
Talking heads, this is gonna make it hard for you then 
"From the moment it was unleashed in 1978, the Lexicon 224 Digital Reverb — with its tactile, slider-based controller and famously lush reverb tail — single-handedly defined the sound of an entire era."
Just 39$
"From the moment it was unleashed in 1978, the Lexicon 224 Digital Reverb — with its tactile, slider-based controller and famously lush reverb tail — single-handedly defined the sound of an entire era."
Just 39$
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- KVRian
- 998 posts since 31 Oct, 2020
Where is it 39$ ?drsyncenstein wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:45 pm Talking heads, this is gonna make it hard for you then
"From the moment it was unleashed in 1978, the Lexicon 224 Digital Reverb — with its tactile, slider-based controller and famously lush reverb tail — single-handedly defined the sound of an entire era."
Just 39$![]()
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- KVRian
- 998 posts since 31 Oct, 2020
Never mind. Found it.audiouser720 wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:07 pmWhere is it 39$ ?drsyncenstein wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:45 pm Talking heads, this is gonna make it hard for you then
"From the moment it was unleashed in 1978, the Lexicon 224 Digital Reverb — with its tactile, slider-based controller and famously lush reverb tail — single-handedly defined the sound of an entire era."
Just 39$![]()
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- KVRist
- 459 posts since 21 Jul, 2001
https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/au ... tal-reverb
or at UAD itself with code uadtuesdays
or at UAD itself with code uadtuesdays
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- KVRist
- 459 posts since 21 Jul, 2001
I have yet to discover what's special about the delay, but the reverb is pretty freaky. Nice weird artefacts when spread, size and feedback are high. Reverb that grew up as a delay and now it's grown up and still has trouble adjustingaudiouser720 wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:25 pm One of my secret weapons are Rounds reverb and delay in Reaktor Blocks. I think those cheeky little effects sound awesome.
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- KVRian
- 998 posts since 31 Oct, 2020
Delay is about the ping pong. That's what's nice about it. I hear difference between ping pong in delays. You would thing it's simple. It just pings and pongs. But somehow it always pings or pongs differently. In Rounds delay it pings and pongs very smoothly; it's a nice sound.
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- KVRian
- 571 posts since 21 May, 2011
The analog part of BIM is super nice but the actual delay and modes are not that impressive, at least to me, so I sold mine.
Try Acustica Audio Lemon, heavy on the CPU but one of the best delays ITB, I can get pretty much in close enough territories to not miss BIM.
Try Acustica Audio Lemon, heavy on the CPU but one of the best delays ITB, I can get pretty much in close enough territories to not miss BIM.
- KVRAF
- 11332 posts since 18 Aug, 2007 from NYC
What’s the latency on Lemon?peheme wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:38 pm The analog part of BIM is super nice but the actual delay and modes are not that impressive, at least to me, so I sold mine.
Try Acustica Audio Lemon, heavy on the CPU but one of the best delays ITB, I can get pretty much in close enough territories to not miss BIM.
I know I tried it after seeing bmanic rave about it.
It is extremely nice, but yeah, CPU heavy and I thought I remembered extreme latency, maybe more that Soundtoys Primal Tap?
