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O o, another piece of neglected software to pull out and try.

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audiouser720 wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:25 pm
drsyncenstein wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:15 pm The best hardware delay for me is the pcm80. Not vintage sound, but there must be someone inside it with a can of syrup. Pouring loads over the signal. Echoboy is one delay that i own for some reason never use. Probably because you are right. We agree on H-delay. There is something about the H-reverb i like too. Relab; like sonsig most and goldplate when you crank the squish knob way too high. 480 sounds too realistic for what i do with it. I knew Arturia from the so so synths, but they surprised me. There are quite a few good fx in the bundle. Supermassive is also a favourite, in my book the plugz he gives away for free are his best.
Yeah it seems we have similar taste in rev / del. I also think Lx480 is amazing but too realistic, not dirty / grainy enough. Funny about Valhalla the only one I like is the free Supermassive and not because it’s free. It’s their best sounding plugin IMHO.

One of my secret weapons are Rounds reverb and delay in Reaktor Blocks. I think those cheeky little effects sound awesome.
Just when I'm considering installing/not installing Reaktor on the new laptop.

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drsyncenstein wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:36 pm O o, another piece of neglected software to pull out and try.
By the way what’s your take on Valhalla Delay, especially the digital mode? Comparing to your mentioned lexicon box and other favourite vst effects that sound as good as hardware?

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Valhalla's Digital Mode has the age parameter.

At 50% it's essentially operating at 12-bit. Push it further and you go into less bit depth.

You can add more saturation via the drive control.

You also have a triangle modulation and a low pass and high pass filter.

The ERA control changes the overall timbre and saturation.

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kraster wrote: Mon Sep 25, 2023 11:30 pm Valhalla's Digital Mode has the age parameter.

At 50% it's essentially operating at 12-bit. Push it further and you go into less bit depth.

You can add more saturation via the drive control.

You also have a triangle modulation and a low pass and high pass filter.

The ERA control changes the overall timbre and saturation.
Yes, I know all of this. I’m merely comparing the sound with these settings to those mentioned hardware boxes and I’m personally not convinced. Sometimes. But not always.

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I tried V Delay some time ago and decided it was not different enough to add to the collection. I can't remember how i felt about the different modes.

Today we have ua lex 224 for 39$. Crazy times.

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I still haven’t loaded on the Valhalla plugins, and I don’t think I will.

In addition to Bam, I have 224 (UA) and just added the relab xl480. Agreed not enough differences to justify keeping on now.

Back to Bim… Soundtoys’ Primal Tap holds its own in a different way, especially as a performative tool. Yeah, plenty of latency, but in a mixing stage, that’s not an issue.

Not sure why I haven’t used it before, but reading that Prime Time 93 was likely use on the Once In a Lifetime track made some things click.

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Talking heads, this is gonna make it hard for you then ;)
"From the moment it was unleashed in 1978, the Lexicon 224 Digital Reverb — with its tactile, slider-based controller and famously lush reverb tail — single-handedly defined the sound of an entire era."

Just 39$ :)

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drsyncenstein wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:45 pm Talking heads, this is gonna make it hard for you then ;)
"From the moment it was unleashed in 1978, the Lexicon 224 Digital Reverb — with its tactile, slider-based controller and famously lush reverb tail — single-handedly defined the sound of an entire era."

Just 39$ :)
Where is it 39$ ?

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audiouser720 wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 7:07 pm
drsyncenstein wrote: Tue Sep 26, 2023 6:45 pm Talking heads, this is gonna make it hard for you then ;)
"From the moment it was unleashed in 1978, the Lexicon 224 Digital Reverb — with its tactile, slider-based controller and famously lush reverb tail — single-handedly defined the sound of an entire era."

Just 39$ :)
Where is it 39$ ?
Never mind. Found it.

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https://www.audiodeluxe.com/products/au ... tal-reverb
or at UAD itself with code uadtuesdays

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audiouser720 wrote: Sun Sep 24, 2023 9:25 pm One of my secret weapons are Rounds reverb and delay in Reaktor Blocks. I think those cheeky little effects sound awesome.
I have yet to discover what's special about the delay, but the reverb is pretty freaky. Nice weird artefacts when spread, size and feedback are high. Reverb that grew up as a delay and now it's grown up and still has trouble adjusting :tu:

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Delay is about the ping pong. That's what's nice about it. I hear difference between ping pong in delays. You would thing it's simple. It just pings and pongs. But somehow it always pings or pongs differently. In Rounds delay it pings and pongs very smoothly; it's a nice sound.

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The analog part of BIM is super nice but the actual delay and modes are not that impressive, at least to me, so I sold mine.
Try Acustica Audio Lemon, heavy on the CPU but one of the best delays ITB, I can get pretty much in close enough territories to not miss BIM.

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peheme wrote: Sat Sep 30, 2023 4:38 pm The analog part of BIM is super nice but the actual delay and modes are not that impressive, at least to me, so I sold mine.
Try Acustica Audio Lemon, heavy on the CPU but one of the best delays ITB, I can get pretty much in close enough territories to not miss BIM.
What’s the latency on Lemon?

I know I tried it after seeing bmanic rave about it.

It is extremely nice, but yeah, CPU heavy and I thought I remembered extreme latency, maybe more that Soundtoys Primal Tap?

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