VSTi for 90s synth sounds?

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SuitcaseOfLizards wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 3:48 am airy meditative tracks.
Do you mean like New Age? We used sample based synths back then. Think choirs, bells, shakuhachi, bottle blow, strings, long evolving pads and such.

Korg's Triton plugin would probably be a good choice:

https://www.korg.com/us/products/software/kc_triton/
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Yes, I was going to suggest that one too.

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The Roland D50 is really the king of that sound, and a plugin version is available from Roland. If you want its spiritual successor, have a look at Omnisphere.
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It certainly was at least until the M1 came out so the plugin version of the M1 would be a good suggestion as well.

I've lost count of how many film and TV show scores used the ubiquitous D-50 "Native Dance" preset.
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If i have to be honest from soundesign point of viewi 90s sounds are boring,kids now make more interesting stuff with Vital turning knobs,probably with no idea what they actually doing,just synthesizers are more advanced :)
To me personally most impressive sound from 90s is still Prodigy - Poison bass.
It's two layers ,no idea what synth they use,just that was one of absolutely most favorite sounds ever,remember playing this song on cassette over and over again on every party and a lot of kids jumping around,we had no idea what they 'sing'' ,just it was so ''cool'' everybody wanna jump on it :)
Probably some of presets i made yesterday are more interesting and dynamic from technical point of view,but this bass and that song had huge influence over me back then :)
Cheers :)

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VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:15 pm To me personally most impressive sound from 90s is still Prodigy - Poison bass.

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Korg M1 and JP6k

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VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:15 pm To me personally most impressive sound from 90s is still Prodigy - Poison bass.
btw, the JD-08 and JD-800 won’t make that exact same sound since they don’t have the vintage expansion. However, if they can load JD-800/990 sysex, you might be able to load the vintage card patches and reconstruct it using some internal PWM sample.

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IIRC the Roland Cloud JD-800 can import Bin files but not Sysex.

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VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:15 pm If i have to be honest from soundesign point of viewi 90s sounds are boring,kids now make more interesting stuff with Vital turning knobs,probably with no idea what they actually doing,just synthesizers are more advanced :)
The problem is your definition of synthesis is too myopic. The sound example you provided is proof of that.

There is no such thing as "90's sound". It may come as a shock to you but we made everything from New Age to Metal to Country to Hip Hop etc during that decade and each genre had it's own sound.

For example no matter who is turning the dials Vital would never be a good choice for New Age and so on. It's a nice little synth but a toy compared to others, even those from the early 90's.

Sample based synthesis which got its legs in the late 80's and early 90's has a wider range of sounds than any other since anything we can hear we can sample. I remember when I bought my Ensoniq Mirage and suddenly sounds that were never possible before were in our grasp. No longer were we limited to buzzy saw waves or hollow square waves. It was as much of a quantum leap in synthesis as VST has been since 2000 or so.

We are certainly living in the golden age of synthesis as we have so many choices and options at our fingertips these days. I find it sad that so many people don't avail themselves of all forms of synthesis but to each his own.... :shrug:
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Even electronic ranged from Massive Attack to Orbital...and that was the pop music! People were doing more interesting things with samplers and romplers back then, too. We were forced to because that was the only way to get polyphony.

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Uncle E wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 9:24 pm
VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:15 pm To me personally most impressive sound from 90s is still Prodigy - Poison bass.
btw, the JD-08 and JD-800 won’t make that exact same sound since they don’t have the vintage expansion. However, if they can load JD-800/990 sysex, you might be able to load the vintage card patches and reconstruct it using some internal PWM sample.
Thanks for interesting video tutorial,but i'm neither into recreating famous basses,nor wanna ruin my sweet teen memories trying to make same bass :)
Imho the magic of this bass is two layers combination,screaming reso and dynamic layer,which gives me a lot of interesting ideas for let say three layer bass using lp,bp and hp filters.
Cheers :)

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I hear you! Name a better decade than the 90's, you can't! ;)

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Teksonik wrote: Fri Sep 29, 2023 1:43 am
VELLTONE MUSIC wrote: Thu Sep 28, 2023 7:15 pm If i have to be honest from soundesign point of viewi 90s sounds are boring,kids now make more interesting stuff with Vital turning knobs,probably with no idea what they actually doing,just synthesizers are more advanced :)
The problem is your definition of synthesis is too myopic. The sound example you provided is proof of that.

There is no such thing as "90's sound". It may come as a shock to you but we made everything from New Age to Metal to Country to Hip Hop etc during that decade and each genre had it's own sound.

For example no matter who is turning the dials Vital would never be a good choice for New Age and so on. It's a nice little synth but a toy compared to others, even those from the early 90's.

Sample based synthesis which got its legs in the late 80's and early 90's has a wider range of sounds than any other since anything we can hear we can sample. I remember when I bought my Ensoniq Mirage and suddenly sounds that were never possible before were in our grasp. No longer were we limited to buzzy saw waves or hollow square waves. It was as much of a quantum leap in synthesis as VST has been since 2000 or so.

We are certainly living in the golden age of synthesis as we have so many choices and options at our fingertips these days. I find it sad that so many people don't avail themselves of all forms of synthesis but to each his own.... :shrug:
In terms of dynamics i'd say popular 90's sound is very flat,you can't deny that Vital beat everything ever made so far with few clicks in that direction.
Sample layering is nice for listening,but technically isn't big deal,especially if you wanna make something more out of box.
It's actually the best thing imho 90s sound engeneers and enthusiasts develop ,which these days could go to absolutely amazing levels,but developers mostly make just one layer synths,which is weird.
I think you said it once (or somebody else,can't remember :)- opinion is like ass.ol,everybody has it and bring it everywhere with himself ....so that's just my opinion about technology and sound of 90s from today virtual synths point of view,which is probably not entirely right or wrong,there is a lot of good ideas developed at that era,but now we can do a lot more.
)Cheers :)
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