Sonic Charge Synplant 2 Announced

[kraster]

That's where this shines, in synthesizing weird sounds from samples, so there is a history or a memory of it, and this resonates in the sound making it familiar (think of Mark Fisher's Hauntology). Are you asleep already?
But like others, wish the sound engine was a bit more sophisticated and higher quality.

I think the lack of sophistication is mainly just a power/time issue.

In the Cuckoo video with Magnus he explained that the synth was basically built ten years ago but it took about a day for the solver to run through a patch. It was a technology waiting for the right combination of power and complexity.

I've noticed, for example a 1 second sample takes about 3 minutes to fully run through all the branches. The full 2 second sample takes a about twice as long.

A lot depends on the source material but there is obviously a trade off between usability and complexity.

Any additions to the synth itself would add exponential complexity to it and make it more or less impractical.

[egbert101]

With respect, I don't think that is entirely true. I think it's innovative and a brilliant set of ideas, but its full potential has yet to be realized. Maybe there are plans in future for an upgrade to the sound engine and an upgrade to Genopatch. We will see.

[MrJubbly]

... I'm still trying to get a usable sound out of S2. I think I need to read the manual or look at a better video.

Really? I have the opposite problem (in that it's not really a problem).

In fact, I find it much more difficult making Synplant conjure something which I regard as being 'unusable', than to the contrary.

And tbh, I can't really think of an example yet, wherein a minor tug on a seed branch here, or a tweak of a DNA parameter there, hasn't managed to mitigate any perhaps 'unwanted' issue.

However, it probably depends largely upon the type of music each user prefers to make and sounds they like to hear.

For example, I was never overly fond of Serum (blasphemy, I know!) and the sounds it generates, preferring other alternatives over, what for many people, was/remains their "go to" synth.

I suppose, it's true that "one man's meat is another man's poison".

So, to each their own.

[Aloysius]

I still don't understand how or when they managed to fix the hole in the ozone layer. That was a big deal in the 1970s if I remember correctly.

A concerted and collaborative international effort to reduce CFCs.

One of the best examples in history of how collective efforts with purpose can achieve results.

Amazing they didn't tell anyone about it. Good to know. Thanks.

[Aloysius]

... I'm still trying to get a usable sound out of S2. I think I need to read the manual or look at a better video.

Really? I have the opposite problem (in that it's not really a problem).

In fact, I find it much more difficult making Synplant conjure something which I regard as being 'unusable', than to the contrary.

And tbh, I can't really think of an example yet, wherein a minor tug on a seed branch here, or a tweak of a DNA parameter there, hasn't managed to mitigate any perhaps 'unwanted' issue.

However, it probably depends largely upon the type of music each user prefers to make and sounds they like to hear.

For example, I was never overly fond of Serum (blasphemy, I know!) and the sounds it generates, preferring other alternatives over, what for many people, was/remains their "go to" synth.

I suppose, it's true that "one man's meat is another man's poison".

So, to each their own.

That seems plausible. I'll stick with it.

[MrJubbly]

I still don't understand how or when they managed to fix the hole in the ozone layer. That was a big deal in the 1970s if I remember correctly.

A concerted and collaborative international effort to reduce CFCs.

One of the best examples in history of how collective efforts with purpose can achieve results.

Or a huge hoax, from problem to resolution (thesis, antithesis, synthesis)

But, I digress...

[Aloysius]

You read my mind.

[egbert101]

Serum is great, but with the alternatives (Phaseplant, Vital, etc.) it's hard for me to buy it at such a high price and its age, although I'll probably snap up Serum 2. Synplant 2 is also great, but could be greater.

[MrJubbly]

Phase Plant = 'Order out of Chaos' ('Something from Nothing').

Synplant* = 'Chaos from Order' ('Organized Chaos').

*Synplant 2 + Genopatch

[Choikdoi]

Phase Plant = 'Order out of Chaos' ('Something from Nothing').

Synplant* = 'Chaos from Order' ('Organized Chaos').

*Synplant 2 + Genopatch

Synplant 2 + Genopatch = "Chaos is a ladder"

[kraster]

I still don't understand how or when they managed to fix the hole in the ozone layer. That was a big deal in the 1970s if I remember correctly.

A concerted and collaborative international effort to reduce CFCs.

One of the best examples in history of how collective efforts with purpose can achieve results.

Or a huge hoax, from problem to resolution (thesis, antithesis, synthesis)

But, I digress...

Or actual science.

You don't "make up" a hole in the Ozone layer, FFS.

How about Cause, effect and resolution.

Why is everything a f**king conspiracy nowadays?

Jesus Christ.

[kraster]

I still don't understand how or when they managed to fix the hole in the ozone layer. That was a big deal in the 1970s if I remember correctly.

A concerted and collaborative international effort to reduce CFCs.

One of the best examples in history of how collective efforts with purpose can achieve results.

Amazing they didn't tell anyone about it. Good to know. Thanks.

Your not paying attention ≠ Nobody being told about it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ozone_depletion

[mevla]

Mr Melva leave me out of your conspiracy theories, Klauklau is a brilliant artist from the 60s and 70s, interpreter of "Alexandria Alexandra", but also "Monday in the Sun" and "Magnolia For Ever".
He was dispossessed of his repertoire by a französische usurper, it is high time to restore his image.

You are such a silly, silly Glotzkopf.

[martiu]

u vil own nothin, u vil be happy, eat ze bug

[mevla]

If you have an hunch that the rather near-term trend for synth developers is to add this kind of processing capability and you have no intention of developing a whole new synth that can compete with what they currently have as far as brute synthesis power but want to leverage your own limited 2-oscillator FM synth, I'd say it's indeed best to be early on the bandwagon and benefit from it. It won't be directly possible when the others will be showing up. Only indirect licensing will be possible. That is, if they're interested.