duplicating audio clips with distance ???

[nowgad]

I'll tell you straight: I don't understand such questions. In WT, everything follows logic. if you switched from another DAW, change your logic to a more correct, familiar, everyday. even Ctrl+C, ctrl+v will help you. who prevents you from reproducing what you want with these manipulations? everything is arranged according to the grid, there are no questions about it. everything is envious only of your actions. Apply what you are doing in Word and look at the result. If you are not satisfied with this, there is another option (paid version): do this using the Arrangement function. After a little thought, you will find your own way, the one that you like more, these methods are not one option.
By the way, I do not know what this function is called correctly, but you can select a fragment and cut it or copy it and duplicate as many times as you want – this is another option. As soon as I start thinking about something missing and writing to support, my brain itself gives me an answer, but, unfortunately, after sending a letter to support))
Don't be afraid to change something or find out, Waveform is a very flexible program. Not devoid of gross bugs - this is its biggest disadvantage. Otherwise, there are no Waveform equals.
Watch the tutorial videos here:
A lot of questions will disappear instantly. The latest videos have what you're asking for and what I'm talking about. Watch, study and happiness will come.
And what is this function properly called, the selection of a fragment with the left mouse button pressed? moreover, when pressed, like)), ctrl, you can add a bunch of elements from other tracks - play around, a convenient thing.

[Maarid]

09:40 - 09:51 + 13:55 - 14:02.

Are you aware that the work in the video is done with a built-in sampler?

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What is presented in the video, time capture, is a feature of the midi editor in Ableton, to say that it speeds up the process is quite difficult, maybe it's easier for you to use ableton yourself? If you need to repeat the workflow step by step?
We can offer you in the free version of Waveform such a replacement for what you saw, including everything presented above

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In your defense, we can say that it is really impossible to understand what you are asking for without a visual video.
Personally, I have not just not met such a function for many years, I (how can I say it clearly?) I have never met a situation where I could need such a function.
All the best

[elcalen]

There's many things that Waveform does very well, but surely the fact that things are one way doesn't mean they can't ever be improved?

Creating music is very much about 'flow'. Having an intuitive workflow is very much part of that. And I would definitely consider easily duplicating selected passages part of that.

For example, I don't think copy-paste, at least in the midi editor, works either reliably or "follows logic". It pastes to where the cursor is located, *unless* I happen to have any notes selected (which I naturally would have after copying), in which case it appears to always paste immediately after the last selected note. That's confusing. Also if the notes you're copying don't happen to be at the very beginning of a bar, it can be quite difficult to correctly position the cursor. So I have to both remember to unselect everything *and* find the correct place to paste. (And possibly repeat that process multiple times.) That's a lot of work to do something that in many other DAWs I can do with the press of a single button.

[nowgad]

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mmm, this function, at the end of my message, the selection of a fragment with the left mouse button pressed should definitely make life easier.
with this function, you select that fragment with voids and multiply it with notes. a universal thing.
my English can be terrible)) but how to press the buttons is described correctly
And I'm sorry if my messages sound harsh. English is not my native language. at one time I started reading instructions and watching instructional videos - and a lot of questions evaporated. It's a pity that @InventiveCreation stopped creating Waveform videos, he did it very, very well and accessible. Somewhere here on the forum he is present and reads everything)

[Maarid]

It pastes to where the cursor is located, *unless* I happen to have any notes selected (which I naturally would have after copying), in which case it appears to always paste immediately after the last selected note.

I just opened the editor, checked, you can put the cursor in the right place in the midi editor by clicking the mouse at the top of the window, where the time bar is indicated, If you have grid binding enabled, you will always set the start position of the beginning of the note closest to the mouse click.
I understand what you are talking about in principle - so that the inserted fragment would be located right next to the copied one and so sequentially and continue indefinitely further? While capturing the voids of the selected fragment? Like in Ableton.
Yes, that's not how it works. But I don't use copy\paste anywhere at all, using the ctrl key to duplicate, it personally seems to me ten times faster, I can't rule out that this is so due to my habit of running from old daws.

[Maarid]

in the end, won't it be easier for you and Marcus to write a note in midi for one bar, click on the L segment, hold out evenly as long as necessary and click merge on a long repeating file? Even more than inserting half an hour?

[nowgad]

and will it go like this?)

[elcalen]

I just opened the editor, checked, you can put the cursor in the right place in the midi editor by clicking the mouse at the top of the window, where the time bar is indicated, If you have grid binding enabled, you will always set the start position of the beginning of the note closest to the mouse click.

That's not quite what I mean. I know how to position the cursor and how snapping works. I mean, if the note I'm copying doesn't start on a very obvious grid line, like the start of a bar, it can take a moment to figure out which grid line I actually need to paste it on. And what if the note is *not* quantized to the grid? Then it would be almost impossible to position it correctly...

I understand what you are talking about in principle - so that the inserted fragment would be located right next to the copied one and so sequentially and continue indefinitely further? While capturing the voids of the selected fragment? Like in Ableton.
Yes, that's not how it works. But I don't use copy\paste anywhere at all, using the ctrl key to duplicate, it personally seems to me ten times faster, I can't rule out that this is so due to my habit of running from old daws.

Yeah, I honestly don't use copy-paste much for midi editing, either. I'm quite used to ctrl+drag copying myself from other DAWs, and I do actually use that a lot. But sometimes if, for instance, you're making a simple repeating pattern, being able to very easily just duplicate one or two bar's worth of notes can be very handy.

[elcalen]

and will it go like this?

That is very fancy, but it is not at all the scenario we're talking about. We're simply talking about duplicating a range of *time*, instead of just clips or parts of clips.

For example, if I highlight a passage with this tool, but there is empty space at the beginning or end of the highlighted area, what I intuitively expect when I hit 'D' is that that the entire highlighted region would be duplicated, including the empty space. But that is not what happens in Waveform.

And whether you need that function or not, I personally think it wouldn't be a bad addition to Waveform.

[Maarid]

I mean, if the note I'm copying doesn't start on a very obvious grid line, like the start of a bar, it can take a moment to figure out which grid line I actually need to paste it on. And what if the note is *not* quantized to the grid? Then it would be almost impossible to position it correctly...

the arrangement of notes is always copied completely and accurately, but when pasting or transferring with the ctrl key, the first selected note will be tied to the grid or manually set specifically. This is definitely a problem, I completely agree. I don't use musical instruments for midi, because this trouble is very rare for me. But as far as I understand the situation, the delay in recording the midi keyboard always gives a small time lag, that is, as in my situation, you and I have the place and the ability to manually insert one note at the beginning before copying tied exactly to the grid, which will give us 100% copy quality. For example, I usually find the section I need in a midi track to copy and separately insert a note two \ three tones below the melody, then selecting it with ctrl to the selected one, it turns out to insert it into another midi file quite quickly without losing the location, as well as manually transfer it to any part of the file. But it's more of a trick of course.

[Marcus Wasser]

@ALL

Thank you for all your comments. That was not my intention to make this discussion endless. Use your time for creativity. I`ll make the best for me from your tips.
I wish you happy composing all the time.

Best regards, Marcus (Youtube → "BLUEeyedCAT")

[nowgad]

By the way, yes! thank you for helping me find another bug!
who communicates with the developers, tell me, be kind to them about it

but, I still don't fully understand this problem, well, okay... maybe I'll face this again

[elcalen]

but, I still don't fully understand this problem

There is no problem, as such! In a lot of cases using ctrl+drag or copy-pasting is perfectly fine and does what I need!

All I'm saying is that it could be even better, faster, and more intuitive, if the duplicate command could work with ranges of time rather than just the clips or notes.

For me personally, I would especially like that in the midi editor; duplicating notes in a way that makes musical sense, i.e. so that notes fall on the same beats in the next bar. Again, in many cases, ctrl+drag is perfectly fine for this! But when you're repeating it many times it can get a little annoying.

My ultimate argument is: having more ways to edit material is better for everyone.

[nowgad]

My ultimate argument is: having more ways to edit material is better for everyone.

I completely agree with this!

[Marcus Wasser]

Copy real audio clips with ranges of time in YT video "Alice Yalcin Efe - Mercurial Tones Academy - Formula That Gets 1.2 BILLION Streams". Make the "playback speed" of the video to "0,25", and look from exact Min 03:52 (the yellow Hat).

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