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Atlatnesiti wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:20 pm Well, obviously NI discontinued to support KKS MK1 to sell MK3 instead :wink:
MK3 still doesn’t support MIDI 2 protocol and for a good reason - NKS would become absolute :wink:
Personally awaiting KORG Keystage 49 with Poly AT and most importantly MIDI 2 implementation - bidirectional comms with your host PC - NO MORE Need for “Kontrol” type of software :)
It does support Midi 2.0.

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Atlatnesiti wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:20 pm Well, obviously NI discontinued to support KKS MK1 to sell MK3 instead :wink:
MK3 still doesn’t support MIDI 2 protocol and for a good reason - NKS would become absolute :wink:
Personally awaiting KORG Keystage 49 with Poly AT and most importantly MIDI 2 implementation - bidirectional comms with your host PC - NO MORE Need for “Kontrol” type of software :)
MK3 does support MIDI 2.
From what I’ve seen this issue will be the same for Korg, that MIDI 2 is till not supported by OS and DAWS.

Apparently, Apple is on board. Talks are in process with Windows.
Then it’ll be DAWs next to implement MIDI 2 - seems like Logic will be first to do it.

ED also responded to this subject on VIC: https://vi-control.net/community/thread ... le.143521/


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Double Tap wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:40 pm
Atlatnesiti wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:20 pm Well, obviously NI discontinued to support KKS MK1 to sell MK3 instead :wink:
MK3 still doesn’t support MIDI 2 protocol and for a good reason - NKS would become absolute :wink:
Personally awaiting KORG Keystage 49 with Poly AT and most importantly MIDI 2 implementation - bidirectional comms with your host PC - NO MORE Need for “Kontrol” type of software :)
It does support Midi 2.0.
Sorry, Not seeing it on NI website…

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Atlatnesiti wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:51 pm
Double Tap wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:40 pm
Atlatnesiti wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:20 pm Well, obviously NI discontinued to support KKS MK1 to sell MK3 instead :wink:
MK3 still doesn’t support MIDI 2 protocol and for a good reason - NKS would become absolute :wink:
Personally awaiting KORG Keystage 49 with Poly AT and most importantly MIDI 2 implementation - bidirectional comms with your host PC - NO MORE Need for “Kontrol” type of software :)
It does support Midi 2.0.
Sorry, Not seeing it on NI website…
Under system requirements for the S range. Or just search for “MIDI 2.0”

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elxsound wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:00 pm
Atlatnesiti wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:51 pm
Double Tap wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:40 pm
Atlatnesiti wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 12:20 pm Well, obviously NI discontinued to support KKS MK1 to sell MK3 instead :wink:
MK3 still doesn’t support MIDI 2 protocol and for a good reason - NKS would become absolute :wink:
Personally awaiting KORG Keystage 49 with Poly AT and most importantly MIDI 2 implementation - bidirectional comms with your host PC - NO MORE Need for “Kontrol” type of software :)
It does support Midi 2.0.
Sorry, Not seeing it on NI website…
Under system requirements for the S range. Or just search for “MIDI 2.0”
Got it

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Is there any news on Komplete Kontrol (vst) 3?

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Fornicras wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:17 pm Is there any news on Komplete Kontrol (vst) 3?
Comes out this week I think and doesn't support MK1 hardware (all I know)
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SLiC wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:27 pm
Fornicras wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:17 pm Is there any news on Komplete Kontrol (vst) 3?
Comes out this week I think and doesn't support MK1 hardware (all I know)
Here’s what I want to know: when will NI plugins actually be updated to use MIDI 2, or even just the polyphonic aftertouch that they’ve ignored until now.
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One step at a time. First both operating systems and all the DAWs need to support it too. But it's a joint effort between a lot of companies simultaneously.

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zerocrossing wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:56 pm
SLiC wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:27 pm
Fornicras wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:17 pm Is there any news on Komplete Kontrol (vst) 3?
Comes out this week I think and doesn't support MK1 hardware (all I know)
Here’s what I want to know: when will NI plugins actually be updated to use MIDI 2, or even just the polyphonic aftertouch that they’ve ignored until now.
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are you guys still sad? :?
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SLiC wrote: Tue Oct 10, 2023 7:22 pm Komplete Kontrol 3.0 on October 12th apparently...no longer supports MK1 stuff so stay on 2.8 if you are a MK1 user!
So, if install V3 Kontrol on my Mac with MK1 Key, what will happen?
Will it explode? Will it make my KK S49 Dead?

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It will work in MIDI mode only with KK 3.0. Otherwise if you don't update it will continue working as it always did.

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Will Komplete Kontrol 3.0 finally fix the problems that were in 1.0? ie:

A fixed window size so it can display more than 2 results
Display of what host the patch is from, and the option for results to be ordered by host
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noiseboyuk wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:40 pm Will Komplete Kontrol 3.0 finally fix the problems that were in 1.0? ie:

A fixed window size so it can display more than 2 results
Display of what host the patch is from, and the option for results to be ordered by host
Are you sure you wouldn't rather a light/dark mode instead of these extremely sensible, basic features?

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