KVR Audio

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 4:01 pm

Echoes in the Attic wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:50 pm
noiseboyuk wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 3:40 pm Will Komplete Kontrol 3.0 finally fix the problems that were in 1.0? ie:

A fixed window size so it can display more than 2 results
Display of what host the patch is from, and the option for results to be ordered by host
Are you sure you wouldn't rather a light/dark mode instead of these extremely sensible, basic features?

WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING!

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:10 pm

Komplete Kontrol 3.0 from what I have seen online looks very much like the Kontakt start screen interface (mases sense) but there is some talk of preset layering?

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:25 pm

Are there screenshots yet?

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:08 pm

chk071 wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:25 pm Are there screenshots yet?

https://www.elektronauts.com/t/what-s-e ... 198509/289

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:09 pm

Thanks.

zerocrossing · Post by **zerocrossing** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:42 pm

Atlatnesiti wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 2:20 pm
zerocrossing wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:56 pm
SLiC wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:27 pm
Fornicras wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 1:17 pm Is there any news on Komplete Kontrol (vst) 3?
Comes out this week I think and doesn't support MK1 hardware (all I know)
Here’s what I want to know: when will NI plugins actually be updated to use MIDI 2, or even just the polyphonic aftertouch that they’ve ignored until now.
End of 2014

Will that spawn a timeline branch and get us in trouble with the TVA?

Fornicras · Post by **Fornicras** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:09 pm

SLiC wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 6:08 pm
chk071 wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 5:25 pm Are there screenshots yet?

https://www.elektronauts.com/t/what-s-e ... 198509/289

That's already better than before.

Also from that same thread:

“Komplete Kontrol 3 is coming in the next few weeks, and has a whole bunch of improvements, including support for HiDPI and host plug-in resizing. That said, Komplete Kontrol itself does not resize, other than to fit the host plug-ins size”

I don't know If I should be sad or happy.

martinjuenke · Post by **martinjuenke** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 8:11 pm

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:43 pm

It's Kontakt 7's browser, full screen blatted over the instrument presumably. It looks like more than 2 patches will be visible in the search results, so that's something. Also looks possible to limit results to specific instruments and maybe hosts, so pretty sure this will be a step in the right direction. But we don't know what the side-browser looks like yet (if it still has one).

I'd be interested in using KK3 purely as a browser for Reaktor synths, since it looks like Reaktor itself will never get a proper browser. You'd think it wouldn't be impossible to put a tag browser in Reaktor directly, but you'd think a lot of things with NI.

DrGonzo · Post by **DrGonzo** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:28 am

Why does Native Access have to install things every damn time I open it?

Atlatnesiti · Post by **Atlatnesiti** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:56 am

DrGonzo wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 4:28 am Why does Native Access have to install things every damn time I open it?

My question as well…
What is “installing dependencies” shit prompting for admin pass?!
Happens every time

Fornicras · Post by **Fornicras** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 5:43 am

Tried Komplete Kontrol App V3. It's better than the previous version but it still isn't that great, scaling is all over the place and it still doesn't look like it belongs to 2023. It's definitely more usable but I think I expected more.

aMUSEd · Post by **aMUSEd** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 7:42 am

noiseboyuk wrote: Wed Oct 11, 2023 9:43 pm It's Kontakt 7's browser, full screen blatted over the instrument presumably. It looks like more than 2 patches will be visible in the search results, so that's something. Also looks possible to limit results to specific instruments and maybe hosts, so pretty sure this will be a step in the right direction. But we don't know what the side-browser looks like yet (if it still has one).

I'd be interested in using KK3 purely as a browser for Reaktor synths, since it looks like Reaktor itself will never get a proper browser. You'd think it wouldn't be impossible to put a tag browser in Reaktor directly, but you'd think a lot of things with NI.

Yeah I have all my favourite ensembles browsable in KK - had to edit most of them to make them work with the controller but it can be done and I have posted some in the UL

noiseboyuk · Post by **noiseboyuk** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 8:40 am

Fornicras wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 5:43 am Tried Komplete Kontrol App V3. It's better than the previous version but it still isn't that great, scaling is all over the place and it still doesn't look like it belongs to 2023. It's definitely more usable but I think I expected more.

Don't quite agree there, In fact I think KK3 is the single worst product NI have ever released. It's functionally useless here, it hangs on a plugin scan and can't load any plugins afterwards. I can play with the browser, however, and see just how crippled it is.

In 1.x and 2.x you could use a registry hack to resize that worked okay, so you could see more than 2 results. That hack no longer works, and it's been replaced by Kontakt 7's browser which they actively crippled to remove the ability to resize.

The mind boggles.

They don't need to do too much to make it useable, but after 10-some years I'm not holding my breath. They need to:

1. Fix plugin scanning so it can step over any problem plugins.
2. Make the browser window resizeable.
3. Add Reaktor as a tag host, so you can search all the Reaktor synths in a single hit, making up for the lack of a browser in Reaktor itself.

There's probably more than needs doing but since it doesn't work here that's as far as I've got.

SLiC · Post by **SLiC** » Fri Oct 13, 2023 9:00 am

Fornicras wrote: Fri Oct 13, 2023 5:43 am Tried Komplete Kontrol App V3. It's better than the previous version but it still isn't that great, scaling is all over the place and it still doesn't look like it belongs to 2023. It's definitely more usable but I think I expected more.

Underwhelmed is the standard response to any NI releases in the last few years....

Sad state of Native Instruments